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PragmaticPulp ◴[] No.26612365[source]
> Subjects ingested 3 mg/kg of caffeine or a placebo at 8am and 5pm

3mg/kg is over 250mg of caffeine for an average weight man. Twice a day makes that 500mg.

An 8.4oz can of Red Bull contains 80mg of caffeine. They were giving these people an amount of caffeine equivalent to 6 cans of Red Bull. Not a perfect comparison because Red Bull contains other ingredients, but that's still a lot of caffeine. For another point of reference, that's 2.5 shots of 5 hour energy (200mg caffeine per bottle).

To top it off, the subjects were caffeine-naive, so they had no caffeine tolerance. They must have been feeling extremely energetic.

No wonder they burned more fat. I'm not sure this is going to translate to your casual coffee drinker or someone with a high caffeine tolerance.

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hombre_fatal ◴[] No.26612954[source]
Almost seems like you're trying to sensationalize it by changing it to Red Bull, something that's actually pretty low in caffeine once you put marketing aside.

How about comparing it to Starbucks' regular hot coffee sizes?

- Short - 180 mg

- Tall - 260 mg

- Grande - 330 mg

- Venti - 415 mg

Is drinking a 12oz Tall at Starbucks really dropping your jaw?

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have_faith ◴[] No.26612981[source]
It drops my jaw that anyone drinks that regularly.
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arcticbull ◴[] No.26613168[source]
Well, this massive million drinker meta-analysis of coffee consumption (high levels, 5 cups a day) shows it significantly improves cardiovascular health. [1]

> A nonlinear association between coffee consumption and CVD risk was observed in this meta-analysis. Moderate coffee consumption was inversely significantly associated with CVD risk, with the lowest CVD risk at 3 to 5 cups per day, and heavy coffee consumption was not associated with elevated CVD risk.

[1] https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/full/10.1161/circulationaha....

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nwienert ◴[] No.26614087{3}[source]
What does it do to every other disease? Doesn't say much if it looks at a single factor outcome.
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toxik ◴[] No.26614688{4}[source]
Suffice to say, if there were meaningful risks from drinking normal amounts of coffee, it would be known by now. Its main drawback is that it makes people nervous and jittery if taken in excess.
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ThrowawayP ◴[] No.26615298{5}[source]
One of the other major ones is that it can aggravate stomach problems like gastritis since both coffee (even decaf) and caffeine are said to stimulate stomach acid production.
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1. nwienert ◴[] No.26623680{6}[source]
Sleep problems as well and migraines.
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2. arcticbull ◴[] No.26626219[source]
I believe caffeine is both a treatment for, and a cause of headaches. [1] Excedrin for instance is a migraine treatment which includes Tylenol and caffeine.

[1] https://americanmigrainefoundation.org/resource-library/caff...

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3. nwienert ◴[] No.26627678[source]
Reason it’s a treatment is helping absorption typically, but also, a lot of people’s headaches are from withdrawal so it helps in the way drinking a beer helps a hangover.