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rubyn00bie ◴[] No.26612442[source]
This is not surprising to anyone who has ever walked into a GNC, or other health food store... is it even news? They’ve been selling shit like “redline” for many years to do exactly this.

Power fat burner: caffeine + blood thinner. That’s most of what things like redline do. Is it going to work if you don’t exercise? Nope, but it sure as hell does help if you are exercising.

I’d really only recommend it to people focused on losing a lot of weight. If you’re trying to lose 10lbs it’ll never make a difference. If you’re trying to lose 100lbs though, then yeah, 6-12 months worth of slightly increased metabolic rate will probs have a net positive affect.

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bserge ◴[] No.26613275[source]
And no amount of exercising will ever be better than just... eating less. The only surefire way to lose weight fast. People hate this one simple trick.
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halfmatthalfcat ◴[] No.26613941[source]
Don’t even need to particularly eat less. Calories in/calories out. As long as you’re in a caloric deficit, you will lose weight. Now what your body is actually burning to lose that weight is a different story.
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1. scrollaway ◴[] No.26616290[source]
> As long as you’re in a caloric deficit, you will lose weight

And depending on a million different factors, you may lose a lot of energy, burn less, as you hinted to you may lose muscle mass, do damage to your gut flora, all things which after you're done losing a couple kgs will have you wondering "why the fuck am i feeling so weak all the time, and why have I stopped losing weight?"

YMMV. "Make healthier meal choices" is better advice than "eat less, CICO".

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2. halfmatthalfcat ◴[] No.26616406[source]
"Make healthier meal choices" is also vague, esoteric and for most people, will not result in weight loss. CICO is simple, effective and for the common person, a completely acceptable way to lose weight.

Communicating healthy eating, how your metabolism works, how each body reacts different to different kinds of foods, etc is a full time job. In a country (US) where attention spans are constantly being torn in every direction, educating people on the depths of how to correctly lose weight (minimizing muscle loss, maintaining energy levels, efficiently leveraging your body's metabolism) is a losing battle. Yes, jaded and cynical but its reality.

Sure we can be optimistic and _want_ people to lose weight correctly but if you're overweight or obese, the pros of CICO VASTLY outweigh the cons you described.