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rich_sasha ◴[] No.26597628[source]
If solar were free, but we still needed to pay for battery storage, how would it then compare in cost to fuel-based alternatives (fossil fuel, nuclear etc)?
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andechs ◴[] No.26597763[source]
Not all battery storage needs to be electrochemical - hydroelectric dams work amazingly as pumped storage batteries (although site specific).
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amelius ◴[] No.26597811[source]
What is the typical efficiency of a charge-discharge cycle?
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vkou ◴[] No.26597861[source]
It's relatively high, the problem is that building new dams is an environmental disaster, and existing dams are two orders of magnitude below needed capacity.

Also, hydro dams kill a lot of people when they have accidents.

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chrisco255 ◴[] No.26597957[source]
Do you have to dam a river to store energy in this way? Can they just build water towers that pull water from underground up into a tank and release it via gravity to generate power when needed?
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