Google’s FLoC Is a Terrible Idea

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dleslie ◴[04 Mar 21 16:49 UTC] No.26344736[source]▶

This captures my feelings on the issue:

> That framing is based on a false premise that we have to choose between “old tracking” and “new tracking.” It’s not either-or. Instead of re-inventing the tracking wheel, we should imagine a better world without the myriad problems of targeted ads.

I don't want to be tracked. I never have wanted to be tracked. I shouldn't have to aggressively opt-out of tracking; it should be a service one must opt-in to receive. And it's not something we can trust industry to correct properly. This is precisely the role that privacy-protecting legislation should be undertaking.

Stop spying on us, please.

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1. an_opabinia ◴[04 Mar 21 17:43 UTC] No.26345438[source]▶

>>26344736 #

> I don't want to be tracked. I never have wanted to be tracked.

Maybe just use Tor.

> Stop spying on us, please.

It was probably a mistake to equivocate the kind of data gathering that ad-tech companies do with the kind that oppressive governments do.

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2. dleslie ◴[04 Mar 21 17:49 UTC] No.26345532[source]▶

>>26345438 (TP) #

Even services that I _pay for_ block the use of VPNs and Tor; most of the common web services have begun using DroneBL or similar.

3. reaperducer ◴[04 Mar 21 19:17 UTC] No.26346844[source]▶

>>26345438 (TP) #

Maybe just use Tor.

Why should I have to jump through hoops and disguise myself? Why can't Google et.al. just respect the basic human right to privacy?

4. prophesi ◴[04 Mar 21 19:32 UTC] No.26347051[source]▶

>>26345438 (TP) #

But it's totally cool if we develop and sell the same tech to oppressive governments.

5. AlexandrB ◴[04 Mar 21 20:09 UTC] No.26347534[source]▶

>>26345438 (TP) #

Meanwhile, in the "Company Gives Oppressive Government Access to User Data" thread:

> Well of course $company gives $oppressive_regime access to data they collect on their users. They have to comply with local laws!

6. dTal ◴[05 Mar 21 09:48 UTC] No.26354944[source]▶

>>26345438 (TP) #

> Maybe just use Tor.

That's like diving into a conversation about CCTV proliferation with "just wear a ski mask". It's inconvenient, hinders daily activities, makes you look like a criminal, and might not even help. It's unreasonable.

>It was probably a mistake to equivocate the kind of data gathering that ad-tech companies do with the kind that oppressive governments do.

Given that oppressive governments can obtain the data from the ad-tech companies... no, not really.

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