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personlurking ◴[] No.25975086[source]
I realize this is a site about the past, but I really hope this is the future. I want an internet of specialty sites, browsable curations, diversity of offering, freedom of choice, and full of the quirky/unusual. It might have to do with growing up in the 90s and experiencing that kind of world wide web, w/o walled gardens.

Several years back, perhaps even via an HN post or comment, I came across a blog, hosted on a university network (IIRC, perhaps related to media studies). The page consisted of a group of possibly graduate students contributing some of the weirdest and most obscure media I've ever seen online. Nothing obscene and nothing seemingly new/current, so it was rather hipster in that sense, but I kick myself for not having saved the URL.

Nothing says I need to use walled gardens or get my news from the big networks, but I often feel I'm being pointed that way. In the end, I just want something different than what's usually being served up.

(It doesn't escape me that this 90's TV site is full of walled garden/big network type content of the time)

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oscargrouch ◴[] No.25976050[source]
Human societies must have a free road to organize themselves and grow in a organic way.

Unfortunately our virtual world are built in a way to addict us with content we create ourselves giving a few monopolists total control of our virtual presence.

I'm boarded in a project to think in another approach, in a way the give us more power and freedom to shape our virtual collective consciousness..

Without us figuring out a way to get us all out of this trap, i don't see a very bright future for us, and the current political and social status-quo are a clear sign of what all this is making to us.

The power and control is too concentrated in the hands of a few, and its easier than ever to pull all the strings from a couple of places.

Eg. If we have a dozens of key people to agree into some plan to permanent power and control, it will be impossible for us to take our freedom back, of course it will not look like any sort of government that we have witnessed before.

I know this is a conspiracy theory and i dont like it myself, but its pretty possible and easier to happen with all the technological status-quo and tech monopolies we have nowadays.

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acatsdream ◴[] No.25976068[source]
Let us be stronger.
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1. egeozcan ◴[] No.25976875{3}[source]
> The average IQ sample here is higher (period).

If you asked me, that'd be my guess as well, but saying it such a way that it projects hopelessness for the rest of the humanity is a bit too much :)

Narcissism is dangerous as it tends to create and feed extremist communities. For an example, see any political forum full with extremists (these days it's hard to find any without) and observe how often they call themselves intelligent (or woke, or whatever fancy words they use to work around the obviousness of self-flattery).

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2. oscargrouch ◴[] No.25976994{4}[source]
I get what you are saying, but there are a couple of points that make this different..

First, of course is a subjective experience and therefore prone to error, but i came to this conclusion by observing this community over a long period of time.

Second, the communities you mention have mostly common ideological guidelines and goals, working like a cult or a religion. Therefore there's this feeling of belonging. HN is far away from that as people here have all sorts of different beliefs, background, etc. It's an heterogeneous community that will hardly agree on anything.

There's also no sense of belonging here, to a group, or a brand. etc..

There's no HNer, not a club, or have a card in the sorts of "Mensa" that you would proudly show to tell how smart you are.. as most of us are anonymous here.

So i don't think the patterns apply here. I think some people spend too much time on toxic social networks and suddenly start to see 33 all over even when the number is 21, because his neurons are seeing the same pattern too many times with these algorithms that are optimized to turn us all into neurotics.

3. personlurking ◴[] No.25978024{4}[source]
I think the user you're referring to is merely making an observation, not speaking out of malevolence nor arrogance. I was also lurking (my username checks out) for years before I made an account, and I've always felt that HN has one of the smartest groups of people on the web.