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mmaunder ◴[] No.25606123[source]
You’re angry. I’ve felt this in a trademark lawsuit. You think the world should get behind you and change the corrupt system.

My advice is to immediately rebrand as gracefully and effectively as possible and use all that activist energy to effect the transition.

They kind of have a point which doesn’t make them right, but they hold all the cards and you will lose this one and regret the wasted bandwidth.

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webmobdev ◴[] No.25607059[source]
> My advice is to immediately rebrand as gracefully and effectively as possible and use all that activist energy to effect the transition.

Apple will definitely appreciate it if all of us would just shut up and let them screw us.

While I appreciate your well-meaning advise to the author - pick your battles in life carefully - I'd like to add that using your anger constructively at some injustice is a positive move too. You do have to accept some things in life are beyond your control. But it does not mean you should not be an advocate for necessary change. Speaking up is the beginning. (And in fact, more positive to your well-being). And you can even stop with that. But speak up.

The author has made some good arguments and I urge everyone to read it. Irrespective, of what the author ultimately decides to do, he should be glad for having the courage to speak up. And that many of us appreciate it and support him.

Apple shouldn't forget that while it may have hoodwinked many developers to pay them for the "privilege" of creating and distributing apps on their platform, it is the developers who are the ones adding more VALUE to their platform. And that there's a limit to how much you can abuse and gauge them (one would have that all the law suits on the app store would have made them realised that by now).

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0xEFF ◴[] No.25607433[source]
Do you expect to see a box on a shelf of any retail store labeled, “Amphetamine” with a colorful picture of drugs?

It’s entirely reasonable for the retail store to tell the vendor to rename the product or else it will be removed from the shelf.

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gambiting ◴[] No.25607531[source]
No, because at a retail store the expectation is that if I see a box labeled "amphetamine" it better contain actual amphetamine. Obviously that's not acceptable, so it's not going to happen.

When I buy software, I certainly don't expect to get drugs. When I buy a game called "Surgeon Simulator" I don't expect to receive actual surgeon training any more than I expect to get amphetamine after getting an app called amphetamine.

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webmobdev ◴[] No.25608320[source]
Good point. And the App Store is not a retail store - developers PAY THEM to distribute their wares. They are Apple's customers too!
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supernova87a ◴[] No.25608500[source]
You may not know this, but plenty of physical retail stores charge manufacturers of goods to display their wares / offer shelf space for sale.
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1. webmobdev ◴[] No.25608908[source]
Yes, but it is not the norm. And physical retail stores can justify it to some extent because storage / display space is actually limited and obviously they would like to give the most space to products that sells fast and / or are more profitable. (This is why FMCG - fast moving consumer goods - are so heavily advertised. Brand awareness helps their sales, and thus shops are more ready to stock it.)

Apple has no real justification here, especially when it forcefully denies both the creators and the consumers a choice in the matter on many of its platforms.

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2. miked85 ◴[] No.25610475[source]
> Yes, but it is not the norm.

It very much is the norm [1]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slotting_fee

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3. webmobdev ◴[] No.25610691[source]
Just because something is a popular business practice in the US doesn't make it a norm around the world too. And just because it found acceptance in one geography or some industry doesn't mean we have to accept the same it in another. A physical retail outlet is not the same as an online one, especially one that only sells digital products (software).