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macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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2603 points mattsolle | 7 comments | 12 Nov 20 21:00 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source | bottom
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submeta ◴[12 Nov 20 21:15 UTC] No.25075156[source]▶
Unbelievable. When I read the tweet (tried to post here as well), I suddenly realized why my Mac was unresponsive an hour ago.

Here is another tweet that describes the problem in more detail:

https://mobile.twitter.com/llanga/status/1326989724704268289

> I am currently unable to work because macOS sends hashes of every opened executable to some server of theirs and when `trustd` and `syspolicyd` are unable to do so, the entire operating system grinds to a halt.

EDIT:

As others pointed out, I put this to my `/etc/hosts` file and refreshed it like so:

    sudo emacs /etc/hosts # add `0.0.0.0 ocsp.apple.com` 
    sudo dscacheutil -flushcache; sudo killall -HUP mDNSResponder # refresh hosts
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read_if_gay_ ◴[12 Nov 20 21:49 UTC] No.25075547[source]▶
I started panicking mildly thinking my drive was failing or something.

And just before this, I finally managed to fix Spotlight pegging one core at 100% constantly. Next thing, I reboot into a laggy system. macOS is my favorite OS, but the shit I put up with... it's basically an abusive relationship at this point.

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redisman ◴[12 Nov 20 22:24 UTC] No.25076012[source]▶
> macOS is my favorite OS, but

Ain't that the truth with every OS. I use Windows for gaming, PopOS for work on my desktop and MacOS for work on my laptop. The amount of weird issues is about constant.

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barumi ◴[12 Nov 20 23:59 UTC] No.25077024[source]▶
> The amount of weird issues is about constant.

But linux is free both as in free beer and in free speech, windows required you to pay the Microsoft tax to use, and lastly macOS required you to pay a premium on hardware.

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mekster ◴[13 Nov 20 01:23 UTC] No.25077721[source]▶
That freedom of Linux comes at a cost that people aren't paid to take care of the level of details other OS have.

Paying $100 for Windows seems like a better solution if you just want a working OS without a hassle.

And what premium do Mac hardwares have? It seems I paid what they deserved as I can't find anything better in the market. Even moreso now that M1 is out, it seems all Windows machines have premium.

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1. washadjeffmad ◴[13 Nov 20 03:54 UTC] No.25078661[source]▶
> working OS without a hassle

I can't help but think you meant, "I've accepted there's no real way to salvage and diagnose my computer when it breaks so reformatting it has become second nature. I always keep an up to date Win10 install USB ready, and I even have a second hard drive that I keep all my files on."

With Macs, you have to put up with MacOS and Apple (one big premium is lack of choice). It's also not that easy to self-administrate without MDM, and software options are relatively limited if you come from either Linux or Windows.

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2. jmnicolas ◴[13 Nov 20 07:33 UTC] No.25079952[source]▶
Oh come on stop spreading the Windows 98 old stories. Windows 10 is a piece of crap spyware but it is stable.
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3. qz2 ◴[13 Nov 20 14:27 UTC] No.25082462[source]▶
They completely broke Alt-Tab in 20H2 so no, it's not.
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4. mekster ◴[13 Nov 20 15:09 UTC] No.25083014[source]▶
Never reinstalled Windows unintentionally at least for the part 10 years.

> software options are relatively limited

When was the last time you used macOS? I see the options limited on Windows rather and even moreso on Linux.

5. washadjeffmad ◴[13 Nov 20 19:13 UTC] No.25086169[source]▶
We have >8K active Win10 workstations on our domain.

I wish you weren't wrong.

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6. jmnicolas ◴[14 Nov 20 06:59 UTC] No.25090737{3}[source]▶
The unspoken rule didn't change because it's Windows 10: never install a fresh release of an OS right away (I'm still on 20H1). And judging by the comments I read here it's true for MacOS too.

FWIW I switched from XP to Vista 1 or 1.5 year after its release date. It has been a great OS for me, I never had a problem with it (except that it's then they started with the bullshit telemetry).

Of course YMMV, but since late Vista stability isn't a major issue anymore.

7. jmnicolas ◴[14 Nov 20 07:11 UTC] No.25090768{3}[source]▶
I'm a software dev but since we're only 2 techies at work I also maintain about 40 Windows PC, 3 Hyper-V hypervisors (with something like half a dozen Windows server, the rest are Linuxes) and the printers.

If Windows 10 was unstable I should be swamped. But I spend more than 90% of my time on software dev.

And the machines are not new with fresh installs, I all migrated them manually from Windows 7.