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macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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2603 points mattsolle | 2 comments | 12 Nov 20 21:00 UTC | HN request time: 0.008s | source
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Lammy ◴[12 Nov 20 21:38 UTC] No.25075443[source]▶
Maybe it's just me but the idea that my computer lets Apple (+ any LE organizations) surveil my app launches seems so much scarier than any malware.
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valuearb ◴[12 Nov 20 22:11 UTC] No.25075841[source]▶
Why is it scary that your computer checks for malware?

It’s not like Apple us building a database of apps you’ve launched linked to your address and social security number.

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goatinaboat ◴[12 Nov 20 22:18 UTC] No.25075938[source]▶
It’s not like Apple us building a database of apps you’ve launched linked to your address and social security number.

Linked to your identity if you have a credit card saved for say iTunes.

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valuearb ◴[12 Nov 20 22:20 UTC] No.25075963[source]▶
Any proof of that audacious claim?
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reificator ◴[12 Nov 20 22:35 UTC] No.25076148[source]▶
In the modern age isn't the audacious claim that they're not?
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tshaddox ◴[12 Nov 20 23:02 UTC] No.25076456[source]▶
No. Apple has a history of being extremely careful with personal data, and almost always goes out of its way to make sure it never even collects anything personalized. Of course, those could all be lies, I suppose.
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1. reificator ◴[12 Nov 20 23:09 UTC] No.25076533[source]▶
They run an ad network and are the entity that manages device identifiers for iOS.

I certainly trust that they are better than Facebook or Google on the privacy axis. I don't blindly trust that they are innocent.

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2. rbrtl ◴[13 Nov 20 04:16 UTC] No.25078805[source]▶
To which ad network are you referring?

They have a couple: https://searchads.apple.com, https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/adguide/apda0878bbd9/i....

They cover ads in Apple News, the App Store Search ads and promotions, and there's the results of Siri search I suppose too. But all of these are internal Apple products and marketplaces. They are not running advertising auctions to any bidder on the basis of guaranteed user groups or targeting strategies.

If you are in fact suggesting that they sell ads beyond their internal marketplaces I'd consider that motivation to move away from them myself, and I converted away from OSS when I got bored fixing my workstation more than my work.