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macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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2603 points mattsolle | 3 comments | 12 Nov 20 21:00 UTC | HN request time: 0.001s | source
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Lammy ◴[12 Nov 20 21:38 UTC] No.25075443[source]▶
Maybe it's just me but the idea that my computer lets Apple (+ any LE organizations) surveil my app launches seems so much scarier than any malware.
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romanovcode ◴[12 Nov 20 22:05 UTC] No.25075747[source]▶
This has happened since forever on Mac, Windows and Ubuntu.
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jchw ◴[12 Nov 20 22:11 UTC] No.25075832[source]▶
No it has not.
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1. mehrdadn ◴[12 Nov 20 22:13 UTC] No.25075870[source]▶
I'm fairly sure Windows does upload at least some hashes if you have it enabled in Windows Defender (which it is by default). Don't expect Ubuntu does this though.
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2. jchw ◴[12 Nov 20 23:02 UTC] No.25076453[source]▶
Yeah, Windows Defender does worse if you let it have sample submission on. It'll send binaries to Microsoft and they will run in Azure!

https://medium.com/sensorfu/how-my-application-ran-away-and-...

That said, "this has happened forever" is false too. These behaviors are relatively new and relatively under the radar. Many people don't know they exist to get upset about it.

3. romanovcode ◴[13 Nov 20 14:32 UTC] No.25082517[source]▶
> Don't expect Ubuntu does this though.

Ubuntu uploads (at least it did couple years ago) your data to Amazon.

https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/ubuntu-spyware.en.html