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AlexandrB ◴[20 Oct 20 16:27 UTC] No.24839296[source]▶
Both major consumer OS vendors seem hell-bent on bringing the OS layer under their complete control. As a power user, it's very frustrating. Meanwhile "desktop" Linux still kind of sucks, just like it did 10 years ago. I don't have much hope of seeing a compelling, unified UX out of Linux in my lifetime.
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1. hexis ◴[20 Oct 20 16:30 UTC] No.24839339[source]▶
Maybe desktop Linux needs more people like you and me to help make it better?
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2. AlexandrB ◴[20 Oct 20 16:44 UTC] No.24839530[source]▶
I appreciate the sentiment, but I'm not a UX designer or expert. And the problem is not that Linux doesn't have enough UI developers, it's that many of them are working on re-inventing the wheel in different, competing ways. Linux needs a dictatorial BDFL for UI - a Linus Torvalds for the desktop - an idea somewhat antithetical to the distributed nature of open source development.

It doesn't help that organizations that could be leading the charge keep changing direction. Ubuntu went Gnome -> Unity -> Gnome in the span of 15 years or so. And now they're going in hard on Snaps, which introduces breaks in UI uniformity again (Gnome Themes, for example[1]).

[1] https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2020/10/automatic-theme-installa...

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3. baq ◴[20 Oct 20 16:55 UTC] No.24839674[source]▶
It needs more people willing to pay software developers, UX designers and testers to improve the Linux desktop, starting with the kernel, graphics drivers, ending in consistent set of apps. This is a (ten) billion dollar endeavor.
4. ebiester ◴[20 Oct 20 17:05 UTC] No.24839803[source]▶
Two groups tried that. Unity tried that, and GNOME is trying that. Many of us really hate GNOME's decisions.

I'm not sure I really like the BDFL here.