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    lordleft ◴[] No.24147974[source]
    Imagine if Microsoft did this on PCs. a) prohibiting the installation of non-windows store software (sideloading) and b) insisting that all purchases done via apps give them a 30% cut. I think this is a ridiculous practice on the behalf of Apple.
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    rvz ◴[] No.24148127[source]
    Even worse. Imagine if the World Wide Web was not open and you had to go through a closed WWW like AOL and websites were "under review" by the providers and would take a 30% cut of your revenues or clicks on your web app or subscription service and websites require going only through that provider.

    Thank goodness that wasn't the case.

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    Seirdy ◴[] No.24148178[source]
    It could be the case if AMP grows dominant; given the market share of Google Search, it could be enough to create a controlled (er, "curated") web in a similar spirit.
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    1. IgorPartola ◴[] No.24149634[source]
    Fuck AMP. The fact that there is no way to turn it off is one of the main reasons I don't use Google on my phone. DDG often has slightly poorer results, but I often find answers to my questions in Reddit threads and Reddit has a horrible mobile experience. Between AMP and them throwing 15 different popups at me to get their app (why would I want their single tab app?!?!), it's borderline unusable.
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    2. pkamb ◴[] No.24149810[source]
    Reddit has a mobile view that is almost the exact same UI as the AMP page. WHY do they allow Google to run the AMP page instead? I too have switched to DDG solely to avoid Reddit AMP pages.
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    3. dontblink ◴[] No.24149825[source]
    To be fair, reddit also has a horrible desktop experience. Thank goodness for RES and old version.
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    4. phreack ◴[] No.24149934[source]
    I've had the best experience ever since I ditched Google for DDG on my phone, and stuck Reddit on (old) desktop mode with a text wrapping browser. Don't miss Google at all, I only now use it to search for programming stuff.
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    5. xythian ◴[] No.24150452[source]
    I've done exactly the same thing over the last month and wish I would have made the change sooner. The mobile web is vastly improved with fewer AMP results and new Reddit is just terrible. :shakesfist:
    6. m-p-3 ◴[] No.24150466[source]
    I'm still pissed that Mozilla handled the Firefox Fenix transition so badly. I had a perfectly working Redirect AMP to HTML [1] addon on mobile, and now you can only install a set of whitelisted addon for the moment. Until then, the Firefox experience is significantly degraded on Android.

    [1]: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/amp2html/

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    7. Ziggy_Zaggy ◴[] No.24150475[source]
    +1 for DDG.

    If you're still using Google and prefer a more technical approach to your inquiries, maybe it's time for to consider a more refined tool?

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    8. boogies ◴[] No.24150611[source]
    Because they have a gun to their cold cash craving heads, and will be demoted to lower positions in the results, lose traffic, and lose revenue if they dare withhold their content from the Internet’s biggest gatekeeper?
    9. marakv2 ◴[] No.24150712[source]
    I'm in the same boat, except using i.reddit. how come you use the desktop version?
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    10. anakaine ◴[] No.24151885[source]
    I've done almost the same thing. DDG, reddit in old mode. Google is now just for maps and stackoverflow related searches. Been at it for 4 months.
    11. tomcam ◴[] No.24152140[source]
    http://old.reddit.com
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    12. esperent ◴[] No.24152465[source]
    Unless you keep using the old version of Firefox, which is still available and still works perfectly.
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    13. Wowfunhappy ◴[] No.24152604[source]
    Does Fenix let you install userscripts? You could use https://github.com/bentasker/RemoveAMP.

    This is what I use on my Jailbroken iPhone.

    14. SilasX ◴[] No.24152813[source]
    They botched that too. On mobile (web), even if I request the desktop site and set it to the old version in my settings, always goes to the redesign. I have to manually change any link's subdomain to old.

    The Reddit apps I've tried stick to the meth-addled idea to use fixed floating header bars, which are useless and really annoy me.

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    15. skinnymuch ◴[] No.24152995{3}[source]
    DDG isn’t that good. It is time to consider something more refined. DDG isn’t it.
    16. m4rtink ◴[] No.24153227{3}[source]
    The thing is - will that work longer term ? Mozilla will not maintain the old codebase anymore and unless someone else takes it over (unlikely) tje old version can become insecure & missing new APIs. All that while Mozilla still not providing the missing features for the new version.
    17. tomcam ◴[] No.24154507{3}[source]
    Ugh. That's depressing. Reddit used to be almost as lean and mean as HN...
    18. phreack ◴[] No.24245446{3}[source]
    Using Opera browser, the text reflows to always fit the screen on zoom, so nearly all desktop sites become very legible on mobile at a glance when zooming in, without having to scroll laterally. I keep withing for a FOSS browser with that functionality.
    19. Seirdy ◴[] No.24246045[source]
    There's also https://i.reddit.com for mobile. I personally prefer using the reddio [0] CLI and tuir [1] TUI for Reddit on the desktop.

    Ultimately, the best Reddit experience is less Reddit.

    [0]: https://gitlab.com/aaronNG/reddio

    [1]: https://gitlab.com/ajak/tuir