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Findeton ◴[] No.24148096[source]
I don't think this should be regulated at all. Apple should be able to impose their rules in their systems. Let's be clear about this, if people are choosing to buy these black-box closed handheld computing devices, there are consequences that come with that choice.
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swiley ◴[] No.24148471[source]
Apple is more than welcome to put whatever rules they want on their systems. My phone is not their system though, it’s mine! If I want to run tmux/fetchmail/ocamlc on it then it’s my problem not theirs!
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Findeton ◴[] No.24148658[source]
I'm sure if you install some version of Linux in your iPhone you can do whatever you want. But you're probably using iOS.
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swiley ◴[] No.24148710[source]
I would install desktop Linux on my iPhone if I could but there are no drivers in mainline and they work hard to lock the bootloader down (and before someone suggests android, the intention there is just as bad but tends to be less well executed and there still aren’t suitable drivers available.)
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Findeton ◴[] No.24148827[source]
Well if your intention is to install Linux in your phone maybe iPhone is not the best choice.
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1. swiley ◴[] No.24148944[source]
Give me a better choice and I’ll go buy it right now if it actually works.

Anything requiring a single android component goes in the “doesn’t actually work” category.

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2. Findeton ◴[] No.24149397[source]
Well if Apple is the best choice then there's no need to complain to them.
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3. Spivak ◴[] No.24149540[source]
I mean the Librem 5 "works" in the way you describe.

I don't think you're going to really be able to reliably avoid the problem that very very very few people outside of AOSP are doing any work on OSS for phones.

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4. __d ◴[] No.24149629[source]
On what grounds are you demanding that Apple sell the product that you want to buy?

They sell products. Those products have well-known rules. If you don't like the rules, don't buy the product.

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5. 9HZZRfNlpR ◴[] No.24150317[source]
This sounds like some gop talking point, embarrassing.
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6. swiley ◴[] No.24156673[source]
The reason they’re the best choice is because I’m stuck with whatever OS the device ships with and android is a pretty broken OS.

Neither is nice but at least iOS gets updates.

7. swiley ◴[] No.24156860[source]
I bought a pine phone the other month when the postmarketOS version was released. I’m looking forward to getting it some time in November.
8. __d ◴[] No.24181925{3}[source]
That's the nature of our society.

An argument can be made that it's morally wrong, but if you're going down that road, there's a lot of things should be morally more compelling than Apple's AppStore policies.