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    Apple just kicked Fortnite off the App Store

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    1704 points ardit33 | 17 comments | 13 Aug 20 19:03 UTC | HN request time: 0.267s | source | bottom
    1. recklesstodd ◴[13 Aug 20 20:20 UTC] No.24148292[source]▶
    Valve is anticipating such move in a near future and investing in gaming on Linux.
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    2. immigrantsheep ◴[13 Aug 20 20:35 UTC] No.24148605[source]▶
    AFAIK Valve already tried the whole Linux as a gaming platform thing and gave up completely a few months ago.
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    3. brnt ◴[13 Aug 20 20:50 UTC] No.24148890[source]▶
    Where did you get this silly idea? Linux gaming has never been stronger than now, thanks to Steam's Proton.
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    4. the_af ◴[13 Aug 20 20:53 UTC] No.24148937[source]▶
    Gave up completely? Well, that sucks if true. Plenty of awesome Linux games on Steam. Got any links?
    5. dvtrn ◴[13 Aug 20 21:12 UTC] No.24149268{3}[source]▶
    Where did you get this silly idea?

    Valve's decision to no longer support Ubuntu as a first-class distribution, a year ago, probably. Though that's just one distribution, not Linux as a whole.

    https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2019/06/steam-announces-that-its...

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    6. recklesstodd ◴[13 Aug 20 21:12 UTC] No.24149280[source]▶
    Valve is actively contributing to Proton and the number of supported games increases continuously. https://www.protondb.com/ tracks the playability of each game in Linux.
    7. kllrnohj ◴[13 Aug 20 21:24 UTC] No.24149471{4}[source]▶
    Worth noting that that's obsolete. Canonical has since walked back on 32-bit apps being available in Ubuntu, and as a result Valve as brought Steam back to Ubuntu: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2019/06/valve-confrims-steam-lin...
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    8. paxys ◴[13 Aug 20 21:26 UTC] No.24149506{3}[source]▶
    The fact that they are starting to put resources behind Proton instead of Ubuntu/SteamOS is in fact a clear indication that they have given up on games written natively for Linux.
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    9. dvtrn ◴[13 Aug 20 21:27 UTC] No.24149521{5}[source]▶
    Oh would you look at that! Thanks for the correction
    10. brnt ◴[13 Aug 20 21:28 UTC] No.24149550{4}[source]▶
    Windows as a library, what's not to love? This gamer cares whether the games run, not about nativity.
    11. winter_blue ◴[13 Aug 20 21:42 UTC] No.24149755[source]▶
    This is completely false. They've been contributing massively to the gaming scene on Linux, especially with Proton – a more fine-tuned version of Wine, that makes playing Windows games on Linux seamless and easy.
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    12. bsder ◴[13 Aug 20 21:48 UTC] No.24149831[source]▶
    Valve is also funding the Vulkan shim on OS X so they can sidestep Metal.
    13. three_seagrass ◴[13 Aug 20 21:50 UTC] No.24149866{4}[source]▶
    That's still Steam bringing games to Linux though, right?

    Whether or not it's native or wine doesn't change the fact that Steam is pushing into Linux. They've shifted the responsibility from pushing linux support on the developer to providing linux support themselves.

    14. duskwuff ◴[13 Aug 20 21:56 UTC] No.24149935[source]▶
    I'm not convinced it was ever something they wholeheartedly supported -- I suspect it was more of a hedge than anything. The Steam Machine hardware project, which was their big Linux push, wound down around 2016.
    15. p1necone ◴[13 Aug 20 22:37 UTC] No.24150448{4}[source]▶
    Linux needs to attract gamers before game devs will widely support Linux. It's a chicken and egg problem that proton neatly sidesteps.

    Valve will have a much easier time improving proton than they will forcing devs to make Linux compatible games for little monetary reward.

    16. m-p-3 ◴[13 Aug 20 22:46 UTC] No.24150571{4}[source]▶
    In order to attract more developers to develop on Linux or at least make it work through Proton, Valve is taking the path of least resistance. Proton seems to be a good step toward that end.
    17. m4rtink ◴[14 Aug 20 01:54 UTC] No.24152304{3}[source]▶
    And all these improvements trickle down to the respective upstream prkjects and default version. For example Fedora 33 should use dxvk for directx games by default, all at least partially thanks to the relenteless work of Valve. :-)