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Riot is now Element

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badrabbit ◴[] No.23843202[source]
No!!! Of all the names in the world why this. "Hey bro, let's chat on Element" ,not quite a ring to it.

The hardest problem in computer science strikes again!

Matrix,Riot and Libolm are epic projects, I wish them all the success but man, even Riot was a hard sell as a brand. I would seriously be dissapointed if it loses popularity over this. I don't think the project maintainers understand that their core users/fans are waiting for a product they can sell to friends,family and coworkers.

People who don't know tech rely on branding/brand reputation and word of mouth reputation to decide if they are intetested in even trying out a product to begin with.

Which of these is unlike the others?

1) Signal

2) Telegram

3) Element

4) Whatsapp

Hint: The theme is messaging and communication.

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rglullis[dead post] ◴[] No.23843275[source]
Hey, you again! I wanted to reach you after the discussion about how you were willing to pay a premium for a service if using crypto was an option.

Now, giving that you also have issues with the name, May I interest you in Matrix/XMPP hosting provider that you can pay with crypto and invite your friends, called communick?

https://communick.com

badrabbit ◴[] No.23843381[source]
Hey, I remember seeing your reply, I didn't want to provide contact info on a public forum, and I have developed a severe allergy to email.

I am very intetested in paying for the product you linked, so long as I don't need email. I will support your product, even with imperfections so long as you remain attentive to your user's needs (hopefully being a paid product helps in that area)

And for anyone else reading, I became an instant fan of matrix/riot/element because the only thing I needed to sign up to the matrix.org home server was username,password and pass a captcha! No email! Same with HN(minus captcha). If this wasn't but a petty annoyance compared to all the real problems of the world, I would be protesting and holding flag burnings with RFC2822 on the flag! (We all have pet peeves :) )

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LunaSea ◴[] No.23843438[source]
In places like the European Union, it is illegal for example to provide subscription payments without notifying customers before payment renewal (which requires an email address).
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rglullis ◴[] No.23843507[source]
Given that is a very complicated ordeal to do subscription payments with crypto (impossible with Bitcoin, requires transaction with custom contracts if you want to do with Ethereum), my initial implementation uses a basic pay-as-you-go account system. If you "subscribe" to my service, you need to ensure that you keep the balance positive otherwise your account gets disconnected on a failed charge.
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literallycancer ◴[] No.23844155[source]
You could show LN invoice (QR code) right in the app when that happens.
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1. rglullis ◴[] No.23844363[source]
That is an interesting idea, but (1) assumes the user added my support account as a contact and (2) might create a phishing vector.