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Riot is now Element

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badrabbit ◴[] No.23843202[source]
No!!! Of all the names in the world why this. "Hey bro, let's chat on Element" ,not quite a ring to it.

The hardest problem in computer science strikes again!

Matrix,Riot and Libolm are epic projects, I wish them all the success but man, even Riot was a hard sell as a brand. I would seriously be dissapointed if it loses popularity over this. I don't think the project maintainers understand that their core users/fans are waiting for a product they can sell to friends,family and coworkers.

People who don't know tech rely on branding/brand reputation and word of mouth reputation to decide if they are intetested in even trying out a product to begin with.

Which of these is unlike the others?

1) Signal

2) Telegram

3) Element

4) Whatsapp

Hint: The theme is messaging and communication.

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rglullis[dead post] ◴[] No.23843275[source]
Hey, you again! I wanted to reach you after the discussion about how you were willing to pay a premium for a service if using crypto was an option.

Now, giving that you also have issues with the name, May I interest you in Matrix/XMPP hosting provider that you can pay with crypto and invite your friends, called communick?

https://communick.com

badrabbit ◴[] No.23843381[source]
Hey, I remember seeing your reply, I didn't want to provide contact info on a public forum, and I have developed a severe allergy to email.

I am very intetested in paying for the product you linked, so long as I don't need email. I will support your product, even with imperfections so long as you remain attentive to your user's needs (hopefully being a paid product helps in that area)

And for anyone else reading, I became an instant fan of matrix/riot/element because the only thing I needed to sign up to the matrix.org home server was username,password and pass a captcha! No email! Same with HN(minus captcha). If this wasn't but a petty annoyance compared to all the real problems of the world, I would be protesting and holding flag burnings with RFC2822 on the flag! (We all have pet peeves :) )

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staz[dead post] ◴[] No.23843578[source]
The infamous goal post moving.

rglullis, I'm also interested to pay you tons of money. sadly I will only pay for service powered by unicorn's farts and looks like your isn't. When do you think you can arrange that, I literally have my magical credit card in my hand?

rglullis ◴[] No.23843639[source]
I didn't see it as goal-post move, rather a reaffirmation of a previous conversation we had. He did say before that he does not want to provide email to sign up and that he wants to pay with crypto. Both these things were already on my roadmap.
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1. staz ◴[] No.23843701[source]
If it was already discussed I guess that's fine then my bad.

edit: btw in the footer of your site, the links under service s are broken

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2. rglullis ◴[] No.23843765[source]
Yeah, thanks for checking it out.

Documentation still coming up, and the links will be correct as soon as I actually publish the pages from the CMS.