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macspoofing ◴[] No.23831020[source]
The China-US tensions are not going to get better, and, in fact, will get worse as years go by. More and more nations will be forced to choose sides. It's not good and I'm not sure what a resolution even looks like.
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1. mytailorisrich ◴[] No.23831074[source]
The alternative to Huawei in 5G is either Nokia or Ericsson.

As an European I don't what to think that the US seems so against kit from a Chinese company and completely fine with kit from an European company.

They should be worried about both. We also have a long term world domination plan (version 2.0)... ;)

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2. ceilingcorner ◴[] No.23831129[source]
Maybe the fact that one is a totalitarian state and the other is an ally?
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3. culturestate ◴[] No.23831152[source]
> As an European I don't what to think that the US seems so against kit from a Chinese company and completely fine with jit from an European company.

The US would of course prefer that American technology be available, but since it's not then I suppose a partnership with two trusted allies is preferable to one with an untrusted adversary.

Nokia and Ericsson also aren't arms of the state widely believed (fairly or not) to actively facilitate global industrial and military espionage activities on behalf of a hostile government, so there's that.

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4. jaekash ◴[] No.23831185[source]
The only way this makes sense is abstract of any value judgements, and yes sure, if we in the west ignore that everything about the Chinese Communist Party and how it conducts itself is an affront to our values then it makes no difference. But we are humans, we have values, we make value judgements.
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6. orwin ◴[] No.23831621[source]
But for at least Portugal and Greece, and maybe Italy and some eastern European countries, the ally is china since 2014?

While Obama made his move over SE Asia, the CCP applied the strategy they used in Australia with the PIGS. And while Trump very successfully destroyed what Obama tried to do in SE Asia, the CCP installed foreign military bases near center of trade in the Indian ocean while gaining political goodwill with middle east poorest countries. Most of Iraki oil is sold to China.

I'm not claiming i know what should be done, i'm just saying that China have already a lot of political allies and try to gain more, and now reached europe.

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7. jaekash ◴[] No.23831723{3}[source]
> But for at least Portugal and Greece, and maybe Italy and some eastern European countries, the ally is china since 2014?

Maybe financially, but not ideologically. Not sure how far this "allegiance will hold".