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MacOS Catalina: Slow by Design?

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2031 points jrk | 3 comments | 22 May 20 15:39 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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kar1181 ◴[22 May 20 16:03 UTC] No.23273511[source]▶
I completely understand why things are going the way they are as our computing environment has become ever more hostile. But I am very nostalgic for the time where I would power up a Vic-20 and within seconds be able to get to work.

Teaching my daughter to program on a modern computer, we spend more time bootstrapping and in process, than we do in actual development.

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massysett ◴[22 May 20 16:12 UTC] No.23273634[source]▶
If that’s what you really want, grab a used ThinkPad and put Arch Linux on it. It will boot in a few seconds and is much more powerful than a Vic-20.
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yjftsjthsd-h ◴[22 May 20 16:22 UTC] No.23273745[source]▶
Still doesn't give you a programming environment, unless you want to do bash.
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armatav ◴[22 May 20 16:34 UTC] No.23273916[source]▶
How does that even make sense? It’s an OS, go grab a Desktop Environment and download nvim, VSCode or whatever.
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1. yjftsjthsd-h ◴[22 May 20 16:56 UTC] No.23274216{3}[source]▶
The original line that I was responding to was

> Teaching my daughter to program on a modern computer, we spend more time bootstrapping and in process, than we do in actual development.

Arch Linux does not help with this, unless you make it boot into a VIC-20 emulator or something. Arch can help with boot speed, but once you're booted you're back in a full modern OS. So fine, install VSCode and Python... okay, now you get to figure out libraries. Manage terminals. Arrange a filesystem. This is not getting you closer to the VIC-20 or C64's "boot into BASIC".

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2. cosmojg ◴[22 May 20 18:07 UTC] No.23275093[source]▶
This is very possible on Arch Linux, moreso than other distributions. After installing Arch, just run the following two commands:

  sudo pacman -S xonsh

  chsh --shell /usr/bin/xonsh
Bam! You're booting straight into a full Python environment when you turn on your computer. This is similarly achievable with other languages as well, including BASIC.
3. smcameron ◴[22 May 20 18:13 UTC] No.23275153[source]▶
How about Processing. https://processing.org/