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ddevault ◴[] No.23223542[source]
Google & YouTube employees on HN: how do you justify still working at this company? Enough of the cognitive dissonance. Face your choices and tell me how you square yourself with them. For shame.
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ajconway ◴[] No.23223951[source]
How do you justify being a citizen of your country? (not sure what country that is, but most of them have done bad things in the past). It's possible to be a part of a large organization and not agree with its every action.
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ddevault ◴[] No.23224283[source]
I have much less mobility as a US citizen to move to another country than I have as a software engineer. Almost any Google employee could have an offer somewhere else within 3 weeks of starting their search.
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scep12 ◴[] No.23224463[source]
You couldn't move to Canada easily?
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filoleg ◴[] No.23226197[source]
Compared to most other western countries, sure, Canada is on the easier side.

However, even with that in mind, it is still a very difficult and complicated process, with tons of hard limitations that can put a complete stop to the whole thing due to something trivial, like not having a degree. And even with that barrier of hard requirements cleared, it is still a pretty draconian experience.

Having gone through a similar thing myself (not with Canada, but I ended up coincidentally reading a lot about Canadian immigration laws), I can assure you, it is way more difficult than getting any job, even if you are a successful Google engineer, and by a far margin.

I am pretty sure that any person who went through an immigration process to another country can attest to that. And I am talking purely about the legal-paper-stuff aspect of immigration to another country, not things like getting adapted to your new country or anything like that.

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1. dleslie ◴[] No.23230763[source]
> Compared to most other western countries, sure, Canada is on the easier side.

Our process isn't that easy; we have an immigration system that the GOP would _like to have_.

There are points awarded based on your education and training, variated against the demand for those skills in Canada. If you are being imported by an employer they must go to considerable lengths to prove that they attempted to find an existing Canadian to fill that role. And so on.

And it can be all avoided by paying approximately $800,000 to what is effectively an escrow: you get it back after a few years, less inflation.

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2. filoleg ◴[] No.23238733[source]
>Our process isn't that easy

That was the whole point of my comment. Out of all western countries, Canada is definitely one of the easiest. But even with that in mind, it is still extremely difficult.