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Tokkemon ◴[] No.22703216[source]
Is Zoom the best though? Google Hangouts seems to be just as good.
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1. buro9 ◴[] No.22703294[source]
Try it at 12 people.

Try it when you want to control who is speaking and when.

Try it when you want to co-ordinate hundreds of participants and still want to track who has a question so you can hand the virtual mic / airtime to them.

Try it when you want breakout groups and to determine who is in which group, and after a set time for the groups to return to the main space.

What is good enough for 2 people facing each other, and appears to work perfectly well for a group of 5 or 6... doesn't quite scale to a company all-hands, or giving a lecture or seminar.

Tools fit a scale, and Zoom is excessive for the small and simple use-case but excels at the large and complex.

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2. Spivak ◴[] No.22703441[source]
Which is a long way of saying that Zoom is one the few companies that has been around long enough to deal with all the edge cases. Throw a few devs in a room for a bit and you'll get a perfectly usable video chat for 1-1 or a small group, but you won't get Zoom.
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3. OrangeMango ◴[] No.22703609[source]
I appreciate listing the areas in which Zoom beats competitors. It helps people understand where work should be done on alternatives.

My company has been remote-only for about 1.5 weeks now and we have 4 different conferencing systems that people are using. It's interesting that everyone has their preferences, but for small meetings nobody is using Zoom as far as I've seen.

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4. buro9 ◴[] No.22703629[source]
> Try it when you want breakout groups and to determine who is in which group, and after a set time for the groups to return to the main space.

> or giving a ... seminar.

Zoom is good for large, hugely interactive, video conferencing and meeting.

I am unaffiliated, just a user who has used most of what is out there.

5. floatingatoll ◴[] No.22704003[source]
Try it at 600 people, with at least 50 unmuted. (Not a made up example. Zoom worked, last week, for us.)
6. floatingatoll ◴[] No.22704047[source]
Be aware that allowing everybody to continue following their preferences will result in the same proliferation that you see with text editors, email clients, and programming languages. Based on having only 4 different systems, I might predict that your company size is ~100-200 people (though that's a napkin estimate based on a single integer). There are at least 10 systems available, and certainly many more that are only accessible to technical people.
7. Wowfunhappy ◴[] No.22705679[source]
Wikipedia says Zoom was founded in 2011. Google Hangouts has been around for about the same amount of time, and Skype predates them by quite a bit.

I don't quite understand why Hangouts and Skype aren't more robust than they are. I'm sure this is indeed a hard problem, but the utility of getting it right is obvious, and these are massive companies.