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ilamont ◴[] No.21585386[source]
Xi's in a trap. The nationalist fervor that the CCP has whipped up for decades, coupled with the demonization of the HK protestors by Chinese media and Xi's 'no compromise' stance, makes it impossible for him to lighten up -- and the protests to de-escalate -- without him seeming weak. The HK protestors/population at this point are so angry and the radical wing so large, that they won't willingly de-escalate. Even if Lam leaves the demonstrations will continue. This sets up the stage for atrocities and more international condemnation.

Already on the international front, China is in trouble. The pro-China KMT party in Taiwan may suffer greatly in the next election because of what's going on in HK now (https://www.scmp.com/news/china/politics/article/3037040/tai...), making China's aggressive demands for forced unification even more unlikely in the medium term. This week, the U.S. Senate unanimously passed a HK rights bill (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-hongkong-protests-usa/us-...) that, if it becomes law, will put China through an annual review, which will further erode the Sino-U.S. relationship for years to come. There have been calls for a boycott of the 2022 Olympics in Beijing which seems fringey now, but won't be if China sends in the troops.

There's also the internal question. Ordinary people in China are getting censored news, but some of the raw information about what's going on is getting through via social media. What does this mean for sentiment in Cantonese speaking areas of southern China, or for areas of China where provincial officials are resented for unjust or unfair treatment of citizens?

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FussyZeus[dead post] ◴[] No.21585583[source]
The Nationalist trap is not isolated to China. Indeed Trump is flirting with the same issues, as is Kim Jong Un, as is Bolsanaro, as is Duterte, as is Erdogan. All over the world strongman nationalists are gaining power and simultaneously dooming us to the conflicts of the older generations. It's depressing as shit that so many countries are regressing right now when we should be more united than ever.

China may be the most flagrant (debatable) but they are far from the only instance, and the problems that are haunting Xi now will haunt all of these leaders eventually. Some already are feeling it.

ThisIsBrilliant ◴[] No.21585838[source]
I was waiting for the orange man bad post. Do you know who built the cages for children? Do you know who banned the exact same countries for travel that Trump did? Do you know who arrested 8 whistleblowers? Do you know who killed the first US citizen without hearing? Newsflash, it wasn't the orange man.
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1. jefurii ◴[] No.21586210[source]
Yes and I felt betrayed by Obama when he did those things. I criticize them both.