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KaoruAoiShiho ◴[] No.21191959[source]
Absolutely agree, it's time for American video games to stop publishing in China. It's not worth the Chinese influence on our society.
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Shivetya ◴[] No.21192116[source]
American video games? What about American companies that have factories there or other presence there? Hello Apple! Hello Tesla! Hello Google.

Blizzard has been bending over backwards for some time with regards to China but this is the first time I remember them taking action against someone who does not work for them.

the simple matter is, you cannot pick and choose, all the companies must be shamed into not bending to China's censorship because it won't be long before such actions suddenly show in law; not that some of the speech regulations in the EU aren't close as it is with regards to what you can and cannot say with regards to religions

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missosoup ◴[] No.21192424[source]
What factories?

Everyone already has or currently is moving manufacturing operations from China to Viet Nam or India.

5 more years and the only factories China will have are going to be domestic.

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echelon ◴[] No.21192583[source]
If we're going to repeat the same cycle with Vietnam and India, we'd do well to encourage democracy this go-around.

If we elevate authoritarian countries to our level, democracy may be in for a rough future.

We should be learning a lot from the China situation. Modern China proves that authoritarian capitalism works and that you don't need freedom or liberty for your citizens. And that's incredibly scary.

Imagine if that meme spreads to democratic countries...

We need to be handling this situation with urgency. As bad and as pressing an issue as climate change is, this is much more terrifying.

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netsharc ◴[] No.21193273[source]
> If we're going to repeat the same cycle with Vietnam and India, we'd do well to encourage democracy this go-around.

I don't think the idea is to introduce democracy, because it's cheaper if the people making our consumer goods had less rights. It was like that with the original banana republics, and it's like that now. Sure we the people may want democracy and we may elect people who want to spread democracy (like Obama or Merkel bringing up the topic of human rights in talks with China) but corporations run the world. And we the people prefer having cheap phones and clothes rather than pay the "made in a democratic country" tax.

You bring up climate change, well, maybe the Chinese government was wondering if they could keep up their oppression, but maybe they also think, "well, just 30 more years, and the world's going to end after that anyway."

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1. joelx ◴[] No.21193371[source]
I think you're right that people are making a choice to get cheaper goods over promoting democracy. I think we need to make this choice more visible and strongly push companies and individuals to make choices that support democracy.