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Apple Hides Taiwan Flag in Hong Kong

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1456 points pulisse | 6 comments | 07 Oct 19 16:24 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source | bottom
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mey ◴[07 Oct 19 16:37 UTC] No.21182862[source]▶
It's easy to forget the freedom I enjoy and expect in the United States. Again brings to light the question, how much do you actually own your device?

Since I assume there is no recourse for these users on a censorship level, is there such a thing as a class action lawsuit for removing a feature in Hong Kong?

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1. milankragujevic ◴[07 Oct 19 16:39 UTC] No.21182882[source]▶
Even if there was (I don't know, am not a HK lawyer), you would probably have a few problems if you complained about THAT exact feature being removed. Of course, this is just speculation on my part.
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2. FabHK ◴[07 Oct 19 21:16 UTC] No.21186039[source]▶
People might be complaining about your use of unexpanded acronyms (CCP, PRC), or infusing a huge political stance onto a narrow legalistic question.
3. dang ◴[08 Oct 19 05:47 UTC] No.21189146[source]▶
That last bit breaks the HN guidelines badly. Would you please re-read them and follow them?

Such cheap accusations of brigading get made all the time from both sides and have proven to be completely unreliable.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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4. nailer ◴[09 Oct 19 14:42 UTC] No.21203723{3}[source]▶
> Please don't post insinuations about astroturfing, shilling, brigading, foreign agents and the like. It degrades discussion and is usually mistaken. If you're worried about abuse, email us and we'll look at the data.

While accusations of brigading are common, I don't think the accusation is cheap in this case, you and I are both aware that the brigading happens on China related articles - we've spoke about it directly with each other via email. I would assume per the above you're looking at the data.

The last part is a bit of a deliberate trap - I've stated a fact, that the CCP agreed to provide HK with 'a high degree of autonomy'. If the anti-democracy suspects should downmod it, because it promotes allowing HK to do what the CCP agreed, they would be accusing their masters of lying. I quite deliberately did not make any allegation that the CCP would lie.

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5. dang ◴[09 Oct 19 18:23 UTC] No.21206239{4}[source]▶
You're finessing this, but it's not a fine point. The guideline is clear. Please stop breaking it.

> you and I are both aware that the brigading happens on China related articles - we've spoke about it directly with each other via email

That's not accurate at all, and I have no idea what I said in email that would have made you think this. I've been looking at this data for years and have basically never seen anything remotely like what you're talking about. What you posted was a perfect example of the cheap accusations that the guidelines ask you to refrain from. You broke other guidelines there too, with going on about downvotes and flamey rhetoric ("Enjoy being disciplined by your masters"—please keep that kind of thing off HN).

If you want more explanation, I spent the whole day and half the night posting about this yesterday:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21200971

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21201077

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21199884

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21195089

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21195898

Previous comments on this at:

https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme...

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

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6. nailer ◴[12 Oct 19 13:01 UTC] No.21232723{5}[source]▶
I didn't complain about downvotes but welcomed them (as a point about hypocrisy). You and I have personally discussed strange moderation around articles involving China, you can find them in your inbox. Nevertheless I'll refrain from discussing them here, not because I agree with you (I don't) but because you have power here and I don't like having these discussions.