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550 points polskibus | 7 comments | 08 Feb 19 16:04 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source | bottom
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locklock ◴[08 Feb 19 16:47 UTC] No.19116039[source]▶
I'm really thankful I haven't yet had a job where all I'm developing is new ways to force people to see ads. Imagine working on a 'feature' like this for weeks or months, and the end result is simply that people who don't want to see ads now have to see ads.
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duxup ◴[08 Feb 19 17:49 UTC] No.19116769[source]▶
It sounds like a fun challenge.

It's just ads. If we're talking about some ad for a coffee maker, whatever.

Now their whole selling data to unscrupulous folks, taking money from parents via their kids, selling fake news that makes people hate other people (now that gets into the ad space...) ....

That's where I'd want to nope out.

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1. hobs ◴[08 Feb 19 18:10 UTC] No.19117001[source]▶
Do you think creating something that goes counter to your users desire is not unscrupulous?

The only difference between the first stage of the pipeline and the rest is a matter of degree.

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2. duxup ◴[08 Feb 19 18:14 UTC] No.19117043[source]▶
>counter to your users desire is not unscrupulous?

I mean no... they don't have to my (or my employer's) site.

I love doing things users like, and I do my best to do that often, but straight up it's not their site. If someone wants ads on their site ... I don't see a problem with that on the most basic level.

Fake news, other content, we're talking about something else.

3. johnny99 ◴[08 Feb 19 18:17 UTC] No.19117079[source]▶
Disagree. How do you suggest they operate their business? Does this extend to print magazines and newspapers--do you suggest they stop running ads and just give away their product? Do you think Facebook should start charging a subscription?

What users want, naturally, is everything awesome free forever. It's naive, though, to things that everyone should always get what they want.

As other have said, I agree there are hard limits and Facebook has violated them, in terms of selling data and collecting it without user's permission. That's different.

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4. mmmmmmmmm ◴[08 Feb 19 18:36 UTC] No.19117254[source]▶
Wendy's charging me $1.89 for a junior bacon cheeseburger goes against my desire; I'd rather get it for free. That doesn't mean it's unscrupulous for them to charge me $1.89 for a cheeseburger.
5. cobbzilla ◴[08 Feb 19 21:00 UTC] No.19118617[source]▶
Sure, but FB's real "users" are the advertisers. They love this. The people who think they are FB users are just resources, inputs to the money machine. As long as the resources aren't leaving the platform, who cares?
6. justapassenger ◴[08 Feb 19 22:20 UTC] No.19119229[source]▶
I desire free eggs at the grocery store. Grocery store doesn't want to give me them. Grocery store is unscrupulous.
7. def_true_false ◴[08 Feb 19 22:53 UTC] No.19119449[source]▶
Selling data is bad but serving what is effectively malware is not?