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“I'm basically giving myself a permanent vacation from being BDFL”

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2024 points randlet | 1 comments | 12 Jul 18 15:22 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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bla2 ◴[12 Jul 18 16:02 UTC] No.17515883[source]▶
> I don't ever want to have to fight so hard for a PEP and find that so many people despise my decisions.

Leading a large open source project must be terrible in this age of constant outrage :-(

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symmitchry ◴[12 Jul 18 16:11 UTC] No.17515972[source]▶
I'm a little confused though, by his feelings here. Why did he feel the need to "fight so hard for a PEP" if it was so controversial, and everyone was outraged?

I do understand people's points about "the age of outrage" and "internet 2018" but still: the PEP wasn't generally accepted as being a fantastic improvement, so why did he feel the need to fight so hard for it?

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sametmax ◴[12 Jul 18 16:32 UTC] No.17516223[source]▶
That's the very point of a bdfl : it assumes he knows better than others. Debating is for insight and cortesy, not mandatory.
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21 ◴[12 Jul 18 16:40 UTC] No.17516307[source]▶
But the B is for Benevolent. When a huge part of the community is against, does that B still stands?
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bch ◴[12 Jul 18 16:52 UTC] No.17516435[source]▶
He gave them a fantastic language for free and shepherded it for years - how much more benevolent does he need to be?
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1. kolpa ◴[12 Jul 18 19:35 UTC] No.17517890[source]▶
For every minute that he holds the BDLF title.