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nodesocket ◴[] No.16407550[source]
I recently moved (fled) from downtown San Francisco to Nashville TN and couldn't be happier. I lived in SF for over 5 years, and there is absolutely a mass exodus of people and engineers leaving the bay area because of extreme ideology, hypocrisy, constant outrage, and the echo chamber that engulfs everything. Downtown San Francisco is a great place to visit for a few days but no place to start and raise a family.
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ryanwaggoner ◴[] No.16407706[source]
See, and I left NYC for Nashville in 2015, and I’m moving back to NYC next week. Nashville itself is pretty purple, but the ideology of the south is just as homogeneous as SF, and I find it much, much more offensive (Roy Moore).

There is not a (net) mass exodus from the Bay Area, hence the ridiculous prices. I moved to SF in 2006 and there were always people claiming it was on the verge of collapse because everyone was fed up with the high prices and crowding and was fleeing. Funny to see that nothing has changed.

“No one goes to that bar anymore, it’s too crowded!”

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Barrin92 ◴[] No.16407745[source]
>but the ideology of the south is just as homogeneous as SF

this is an interesting asymmetry I've noticed too. There are countless of places where salt of the earth Americana is the de facto monoculture.

If I'd go there and try to create a liberal-hippie space for myself they'd probably flip me the finger and tell me that's not the local way of life, and somehow everybody seems to agree that this is perfectly fine.

Yet when people in the valley or in a big city share a common culture they somehow have to defend themselves and painstakingly carve out a space for Peter Thiel et al. Why is that? If he doesn't like California's culture Thiel can move, end of story. Why do we have to treat him like a wounded deer?

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BenSahar ◴[] No.16407945[source]
I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that people just don't care enough about those places.

No one cares about Huntsville, AL and most high-profile people would not reside there, so no one hears about any of this bubble behavior from the other side.

The most important cities (culturally and economically) are, at least, left-leaning. So, you'll only hear about conservatives being rejected by the "liberals" in {city}.

I grew up in a conservative town. Personal experience says the bubble on that side is arguably worse and more violent. Being openly gay or not-white or not-Christian (or accepting of those things) in my hometown was a good way to end up harassed and possibly assaulted on a regular basis.

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Fins ◴[] No.16409062[source]
To be fair, it was not the salt of the Earth Middle America rioting in Berkeley because they dared to invite Coulter or Milo to speak.

And you know, Roy Moore lost elections. How many Republicans did SFBA send to Washington lately?

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BenSahar ◴[] No.16409267[source]
Are you so sure about the rioting in Berkley? It takes two to tango.
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Fins ◴[] No.16410568[source]
You don't need two to break store windows.

And as silly and ignorant as Coulter is, at the moment when one starts saying that she does not have a right to speak here, one signs off on his moral and intellectual bankruptcy.

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BenSahar ◴[] No.16416817[source]
We must be referring to different riots.

I was referring to the one where morons from both sides decided to show up with weapons and assault each other.

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1. Fins ◴[] No.16417226[source]
Possible. When Berkeley invited Milo to speak, antifa showed up first and broke quite a few windows, same way antiglobalists reliably start riots anywhere G-7 meets. [0]

After that alt-right brought in their own thugs as well, which might be the ones you're referrring to.

In the antifa vs. alt-right contest both sides get a dishonourable second place.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Berkeley_protests