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ve55 ◴[] No.16164829[source]
For those unaware, Bitconnect was a Bitcoin-based ponzi-scheme that had operated 'successfully' for quite some time. I don't say 'ponzi' as an insult in the way some do for cryptocurrencies, it was quite literally just a bare-bones ponzi scheme, where you deposit your money (Bitcoin) on their website, buy their token, 'lock' your funds for some amount of time, and you are promised very high interest rates while encouraged to re-invest your returns.

What has happened today is Bitconnect has closed the exchange on their website, and so users flocked to some of the only other exchanges (of dubious reputation, since no reputable exchange wanted to list the BitConnect coin) in order to sell their now-worthless tokens, resulting in losses of around 90% today: https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitconnect/

Many famous Youtubers and other individuals with influence convinced hundreds of people to put their money into BitConnect in order to profit off of referrals, leading to a lot of unfortunate losses and a lot of delusion and misinformation among devoted investors. The general sentiment towards those that lost money due to BitConnect has been a mocking attitude in the cryptocurrency investment communities, as BitConnect has been referred to by many as a blatant ponzi scheme for months.

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FLUX-YOU ◴[] No.16164910[source]
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=BitConnect+refe...

Jesus, this is pretty blatant.

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ceejayoz ◴[] No.16165019[source]
Several of the "get referrals!" videos literally use pyramids in their thumbnails to illustrate the program. Holy crap.
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1. dmix ◴[] No.16165142[source]
There are plenty of large long-running "pyramid" structured marketing companies that are totally legal though. Just because it's a pyramid scheme doesn't mean it's a ponzi scheme nor automatically imply that it's exploiting people.

Just wanted to make that distinction. Not commenting on BitConnect directly.

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2. sillysaurus3 ◴[] No.16165192[source]
Yep. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6MwGeOm8iI
3. spookthesunset ◴[] No.16165690[source]
> Just wanted to make that distinction.

Useless pedantry. A scam is a scam no matter what you call it. Getting caught up deep in terminology is a great way to for shysters to obfuscate any wrongdoing. These "business structures" are all part of the broader category called "things that are a scam".

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4. TeMPOraL ◴[] No.16166644[source]
I think GP tried to make the point that not every pyramid-shaped scam is illegal.
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5. tomclive ◴[] No.16166769{3}[source]
Herbalife just escaped being labelled a pyramid scheme a couple of years ago and seems to hover around the edges of legality: https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/jul/15/herbalife-f...
6. saas_co_de ◴[] No.16167727[source]
Multi-level marketing is perfectly legal if you are selling a real product. If you are selling stock in your business that doesn't actually produce anything except for marketing materials to sell stock then not so much.