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votepaunchy ◴[] No.15994045[source]
What did they do with all the bodies?

"Students linked arms but were mown down including soldiers. APCs then ran over bodies time and time again to make 'pie' and remains collected by bulldozer. Remains incinerated and then hosed down drains.“

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bartread ◴[] No.15994065[source]
Reading that made me feel physically sick, and then the line afterwards about the girls begging for their lives who were bayonetted. Just awful.

I have, and probably always will, find Chinese culture somewhat fascinating but I have no love for their political regime.

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hux_[dead post] ◴[] No.15994173[source]
Yup in contrast the American regime has about 1000x [1] the death toll but at least those people weren't bulldozed and it didn't make you and me feel too bad. Calling the other side evil is easy. Spotting hypocrisy is easy. Doing something about hyprocisy is much harder. It involves admitting to ourselves that all of us are capable of doing dumb shit.

[1]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_war_crimes

fastball ◴[] No.15994257[source]
A couple things to unpack here:

Firstly, I'm not sure we're reading the same article, but by my summary count, the total death toll for all combined US war crimes detailed in that article isn't much more than 10,000.

Next, the veracity of some of those claims is questionable at best.

Finally, it should be noted that the Tiananmen Square protests, were, in fact, protests. This was not an action against civilians during war time, this was an action taken by a government against it's own citizens who were protesting.

Is killing unarmed soldiers or civilians in war time justified? Generally no. But it's a different type of crime when you're in the middle of a war zone. Humans don't deal well with the insane nature of war, and so they do horrible things. That's not an excuse, mind you. But I think collateral damage in a war and civilian casualties in a war zone are very different scenarios than Tiananmen Square.

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1. tw04 ◴[] No.15994556{3}[source]
It's not as if the US ever killed off a bunch of innocent people outside of war, and still ignores them when it doesn't suit their interests (see keystone XL pipeline):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_history_of_indigeno...

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