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blauditore ◴[] No.15932880[source]
Many people seem to be shocked because Mozilla installed an add-on automatically. In my opinion, it doesn't really matter since the code is coming from Mozilla - they're building the whole browser, so they could introduce functionality anywhere. If someone distrusts their add-ons, why trust their browser at all?

The main question is what behavior is being introduced. I haven't researched deeply, but apparently the add-on does nothing until the user opts-in on studies.

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vorpalhex ◴[] No.15933001[source]
This is being added to the browser, outside the realm of security updates, through what is supposed to be a UX improvement program, for commercial purposes. It's written by a commercial company that produces advertisement content. It's not clear this code is audited.

Sorry, but I'm uninstalling firefox. They have broken the basic trust I have in them as a user to not push arbitrary code to my machine against my interests.

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1. benbenolson ◴[] No.15933127[source]
What browser are you going to use instead?
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2. rnhmjoj ◴[] No.15933561[source]
If you like Firefox but don't trust Mozilla anymore there are plenty of forks to choose from: Waterfox, Pale Moon, Basilisk, GNU IceCat.

Personally I build Firefox from source and maintain a set of patches largely based on these: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/firefox-esr-privacy/

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3. hjek ◴[] No.15933969[source]
Links2. http://links.twibright.com

No, it doesn't show PDFs or videos, but does that belong in the browser anyway?

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4. pweissbrod ◴[] No.15934021[source]
Firefox 57's sweeping changes ruined most of my vim-like ui customizations (vimperator, vimfx). For 2 months I've switched to qutebrowser and palemoon as a backup and dont miss firefox at all.

If you're looking for a browser with first-class vim compatibility qutebrowser is outstanding.

I've also found palemoon to be a perfectly boring/stable/functional variant of firefox without all the drastic/breaking changes (vim plugins work quite well also)

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5. Grollicus ◴[] No.15934256[source]
I think about doing this as well but heard a lot of bad things about the firefox build process. How long does it take to build for you?
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6. rnhmjoj ◴[] No.15934431{3}[source]
They are probably true. Using an i5 @4.3GHz it takes 2.5/3 hours to build. To test changes you must set up a compiler cache or it's going to take forever.
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7. thanatropism ◴[] No.15934543[source]
I wonder if Links2 or lynx can be ported as Chrome add-ons.
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8. notanote ◴[] No.15935605{4}[source]
That seems a little slow. I compile nightly for my own use and it takes around 20 minutes on a haswell i5, using tmpfs for the build directory.
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9. bigbugbag ◴[] No.15936098[source]
If you were a vimperator aficionado you might want to have a look at uzbl.

Pale moon is not as good as waterfox, at least for me.

10. rnhmjoj ◴[] No.15936336{5}[source]
20 minutes sound like a dream, I don't know why it's so slow for me. Maybe because I'm using Nix to build it and the source is on an SSD. I can't use tmpfs because it doesn't fit in memory without adding swap.
11. hjek ◴[] No.15936460{3}[source]
Yup, https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/bjekedpipaedojkb...