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exikyut ◴[] No.15932108[source]
HOLD THE PHONE

The support thread links to https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/lookingglass.

That page says, in a clearly delineated box,

> No changes will be made to Firefox unless you have opted in to this Alternate Reality Game.

PLEASE EXPLAIN THIS INCONSISTENCY.

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1. LyndsySimon ◴[] No.15932156[source]
Hopefully, it's a bug, and that addon wasn't intended to be installed (much less active) universally like it is.

That doesn't make it OK, but it would make me look at them with suspicion instead of hostility.

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2. nickpeterson ◴[] No.15932457[source]
Don't forget torches, you have to burn down the evil castle or else they'll just hide until everyone leaves.
3. icebraining ◴[] No.15932507[source]
Mozilla is a company that has a long track record of dedication to openness and the free and open internet

True, and that's why I never stopped and recommending Firefox since I first installed Phoenix. That said, they're already installing and enabling Cliqz by default (for some users), and that's no bug. So it's not absurd that people might assume this isn't either. Reputation is hard to gain and easy to lose.

4. ufo ◴[] No.15932612[source]
I think this /r/pitchforkemporium stuff is better suited to Reddit than HackerNews.
5. kuschku ◴[] No.15932905[source]
> let's all take a step back and give them a little benefit of the doubt here, until we get some facts on what happened.

Except for:

Google Analytics being used on the Firefox Addons menu – solved by adding, in grey text on grey background, a tiny "Privacy Policy" link: https://github.com/mozilla/addons-frontend/issues/2785

Automatically sending URLs visited of random German Firefox users to a German company (CliqZ) owned by a publishing, advertisement and tracking company (Burda): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15421708

Mozilla forcefully enabling toolkit.telemetry.enabled in Nightly and Developer versions, and, upon being asked, saying that "below the download link is a text telling you that by downloading these, you opt-in to telemetry".

Benefit of the doubt is over, it’s time to get the pitchforks out.

6. narag ◴[] No.15933391[source]
>>Hopefully, it's a bug, and that addon wasn't intended to be installed (much less active) universally like it is.

>hey look, a voice of reason!

Where's official statement saying it's a bug and it will be disabled ASAP? All I see is Mozilla workers here trying to justity the "bug".

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7. callahad ◴[] No.15933774{3}[source]
I'm not happy with how this rolled out, and I'm not here to justify it.

I wasn't involved in its development, so I can't speak to its origin or the decision to use Shield for distribution, but I can gather feedback and answer technical questions about Firefox and the add-on.