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fastball ◴[] No.14330444[source]
I rode for UberEats for two weeks and made roughly £22 an hour.

To be fair, this was when they were just coming into London and offering crazy bonuses to steal market share from Deliveroo, but still, this isn't controversial - if someone pays you bad wages, don't work for them...

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libeclipse ◴[] No.14330546[source]
That's some solid advice, but for some people, that's simply not an option.

If you can't find work elsewhere, you'd rather work for pennies than for nothing.

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Murkin ◴[] No.14330657[source]
So its better that Uber didn't offer this job at all?
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jacobr ◴[] No.14330678[source]
It would be better if they offered the job with reasonable wages and conditions. If consumers are not willing to pay enough for Uber to be able to offer this, they have a poor business model or are in the wrong market.

You could say the same about any regulation, if you cannot manufacture something at a reasonable price without polluting more than allowed, you need to change your prices or adjust your business model.

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Chris2048 ◴[] No.14330779[source]
> It would be better if they offered the job with reasonable wages and condition

Out would be better if kfc rained from the sky, but that's not an option.

Why is their business model "poor"? If prices go up, so will what is considered a "reasonable" wage. What's a "reasonable" skillset that an employee must offer to get such a wage.

Difference with pollution, is that its fine to just not pollute. Just not employing makes the situation worse.

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rocqua ◴[] No.14330869[source]
A business model that requires paying wages that you can't live on, it seems reasonable to call that business model a net loss for society.
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Chris2048 ◴[] No.14330951[source]
So basically, its better that these workers be unemployed? Or you assume there will be an unlimited supply of alternate jobs available?
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eveningcoffee ◴[] No.14332210[source]
Yes, it is better these people are unemployed and receive unemployment benefits until they manage to find a real job.

Because they are making the situation worse for everyone.

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Chris2048 ◴[] No.14332371[source]
so your idea is necessarily tied to the existence of unemployment benefit.
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1. eveningcoffee ◴[] No.14332773[source]
The idea goes like this: drive to the bottom is not beneficial for the society as whole and therefore it is reasonable to establish some form of minimum wage.

As this prohibits very low paying jobs (i.e. better than nothing) then it would be fair to offer unemployment benefits in return.

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2. Chris2048 ◴[] No.14333305[source]
Which means you also have to control immigration so that you don't get too many poor immigrants on those benefits.

Now the same poor immigrants that would have suffered from a low wage, suffer from never entering the country in the first place, and suffering a low wage in their home country with no benefits.

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3. eveningcoffee ◴[] No.14335954[source]
I really do not know why you bring the immigration into the question.
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4. Chris2048 ◴[] No.14338559{3}[source]
Because it often drives the drive to the bottom