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668 points wildmusings | 33 comments | | HN request time: 1.476s | source | bottom
1. philfrasty ◴[] No.13027165[source]
„...getting called a pedophile constantly...“ Why?
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2. ww520 ◴[] No.13027191[source]
From what I have seen. It seems Reddit has shut down a subreddit whose people are in the midst of investigating pedophile rings.
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4. teraflop ◴[] No.13027201[source]
A bit of backstory: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2016/11...
5. arama471 ◴[] No.13027214[source]
So /r/pizzagate was a subreddit convinced they'd found evidence of a pedophile ring in the government and more specifically implicating Hilary Clinton. They were recently shut down because they kept publishing people's information (which is against reddit ToS _even if said info is publicly available_). This prompted them to assume reddit admins were part of said ring. I assume /u/spez has been receiving accusations since.
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6. JshWright ◴[] No.13027250[source]
"Investigating" is a pretty generous word there... There's not enough tinfoil in the world...
7. noir_lord ◴[] No.13027260[source]
/r/the_Donald has this stupid conspiracy that a pizza parlour is a child sex ring and Clinton was involved, that became /r/pizzagate which the Admins tried to clean up because its retarded and was doxxing innocent people so they called the admins paedophiles.

I feel stupider just for having had to type that..what a world we've built.

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8. mejari ◴[] No.13027293[source]
"investigating" in the same way they "investigated" a daycare and the Boston bombing.
9. pavanky ◴[] No.13027300[source]
They were just doxxing people left and right. I am not sure how that constitutes an "investigation"
10. threeseed ◴[] No.13027308[source]
It's more than just stupid too.

Innocent people have had death threats over seriously bizarre allegations. The FBI really should be involved and people charged.

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11. threeseed ◴[] No.13027322{3}[source]
Based on zero evidence they believed that Podesta and Clinton were molesting children in the bathrooms of a NY Pizzeria.

They then proceeding to post the owners information and make death threats against him and his staff.

Absolutely despicable behaviour. And completely criminal.

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12. Gargoyle ◴[] No.13027382{3}[source]
Of course, now any FBI investigation would have to take into account that reddit employees are known to silently edit comments.
13. noir_lord ◴[] No.13027385{3}[source]
If spez was going to do anything in retaliation he should have just renamed /r/the_Donald to /r/poes_law.

That would have been elegant and not touched user history.

I honestly can't tell with that sub at all. Its fascinating to visit like the redpill used to be, some very strange people out there.

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14. perseusprime11 ◴[] No.13027389[source]
Don't just write it off. They are onto something! I've seen many redditors solve real life mysteries.
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15. threeseed ◴[] No.13027405[source]
Posting this sort of garbage is really inappropriate for HN.

Here is a report from the NY Times (an actual respected organisation) who shows the damage this type of Fake News has:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/21/technology/fact-check-this...

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16. threeseed ◴[] No.13027417{4}[source]
I'm not talking about spez.

I am talking about the fact that the pizzeria owner and his staff have had death threats against them from members of the Reddit /r/pizzagate sub. The FBI should be investigating this and charging people.

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18. Natsu ◴[] No.13027623{3}[source]
They wanted to know what it was about, that's the best summary I know of and it has sources you can look up yourself, many of which aren't covered in your article. There is actual weird stuff that's provable at the core of this--a quick search of 'pizza' in the Podesta dumps will give you at least a few WTF moments.

Yes, you can find unhinged conspiracy stuff written about this. I'm not aware of any proof of anyone committing crimes, nor am I going to claim anyone is guilty without evidence. But there's enough weird that people are going to be digging into this one for a while.

19. gberger ◴[] No.13027636{3}[source]
Like the Boston marathon bomber?
20. sergiotapia ◴[] No.13027849{3}[source]
The NY Times is no longer credible. Tainted source of information.
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21. grzm ◴[] No.13027860{4}[source]
What sources do you find credible and rely on?
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23. rhizome ◴[] No.13028099{3}[source]
Sounds like a consensual hallucination.
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24. ibejoeb ◴[] No.13028120{4}[source]
It is a DC pizzeria
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25. Natsu ◴[] No.13028388{3}[source]
Now you know how #spiritcooking got trending on Twitter after people found mentoin of it in the emails and wanted to know what it was about. After that, people started looking at Podesta's art collection. There's an interview somewhere (NYT? it was some big newspaper, IIRC) talking about how pleased they were this one time some group toured his house or something and were mortified.

But yeah, there's a reason I put so many exclamation marks on that.

I feel sick if I so much at glance at some of those.

26. adamrezich ◴[] No.13028462{4}[source]
Lot of that going around these days.
27. etherael ◴[] No.13028513{5}[source]
There is no such thing as a credible source, any more than there is any such thing as a glass incapable of holding poisoned liquid.

It's the actual information that is credible or not, and the NYT hasn't been doing any favours for itself recently on that front.

For those that don't understand what I'm talking about, just look at their response to the pizzagate thing and the response that provoked in turn;

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/801283157244997632

This is not to be taken as an admission that I think the pizzagate stuff is either definitely true or definitely false, merely that their attempt to cover it amounted to "Nothing to see here, please move along" and completely fell flat on its face with actually addressing any of the evidence raised over the course of the affair.

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28. meowface ◴[] No.13028525{3}[source]
People are missing the satire here.
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29. grzm ◴[] No.13028580{6}[source]
I'm using the language of my parent. If you have a beef with "credible source", I encourage you to take it up with them. :)
30. cies ◴[] No.13029678{5}[source]
And there was some evidence. Like people hanging out with convicted pedos, quickly removing symbolics from their sites, emails in Podesta's inbox, and more.
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31. marknutter ◴[] No.13030483{5}[source]
Honestly, why do people get riled up about death threats on the internet? How many death threats have resulted in actual deaths? I'd put the number at around zero.
32. perseusprime11 ◴[] No.13030828{4}[source]
:)
33. ibejoeb ◴[] No.13032789{6}[source]
You're getting downvoted because people don't like it, but you're right. People who don't like it don't read about it, and that gives rise to denial and lack of knowledge, like "in the bathrooms of a NY Pizzeria."

If you think it's entirely implausible that there could be organized pedophilia operating out of DC, you're not being honest with yourself. Look at what happened in Norway 4 days ago.

I'm not interested in discussing politics on HN--and I'm not referring solely to this theory--but I am concerned when people are not intellectually curious enough to consider even hear an argument.