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2049 points bpierre | 7 comments | 30 Mar 16 16:35 UTC | HN request time: 0.719s | source | bottom
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dukoid ◴[30 Mar 16 17:01 UTC] No.11390860[source]▶
1. embrace
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gvb ◴[30 Mar 16 17:16 UTC] No.11391000[source]▶
1. Embrace is good.

2. Extend can be good if done openly and collaboratively, as opposed to closed and hidden.

3. Extinguish - Here be dragons.

I'm hopeful the New Kinder Gentler Microsoft stays on steps 1. and 2. (done collaboratively).

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1. Grishnakh ◴[30 Mar 16 19:18 UTC] No.11392135[source]▶
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting a different result. Microsoft has been trying to extinguish their competition for decades now; what makes you think they're going to be different this time?
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3. orf ◴[30 Mar 16 19:56 UTC] No.11392427[source]▶
And what makes you think they will do the same? Fact is you have no idea, and all signs point to a more open MS that has learned that simply throwing their weight around won't work anymore.
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4. Grishnakh ◴[30 Mar 16 20:19 UTC] No.11392632[source]▶
>And what makes you think they will do the same?

Decades of history, and their own self-interest.

>Fact is you have no idea

Sure I do. They've acted this way for decades, under various different management. To think they're suddenly going to become some nice, ethical company is sheer lunacy.

>and all signs point to a more open MS that has learned that simply throwing their weight around won't work anymore.

What signs? I haven't seen any. They've done stuff just like this before, and it always turned out badly.

5. hythloday ◴[30 Mar 16 20:25 UTC] No.11392682[source]▶
That's also the definition of "getting better".
6. dohboy ◴[30 Mar 16 21:06 UTC] No.11393011[source]▶
You clearly don't work with Microsoft on a daily basis in a enterprise setup... I'll fill you in. The new lock-in is Office 365 with Intune/SCCM and Azure. We are in the extinct phase of having better management options in Intune for Office and surrounding technologies and enterprise IT will see this as an advantage over choosing another MDM/MAM vendor. Step one done for still controlling productivity apps and device management. Now it's getting developer mindshare and focus back on the Windows ecosystem. Pretty easy in enterprise as we just did a lock-in with Office 365/Intune. They still throw their weight around and their key/technical account managers must have missed the memo saying to be more open for other vendors/partners. So they may look nice but don't make the mistake of thinking there isn't a plan behind.
7. Paradigma11 ◴[02 Apr 16 10:38 UTC] No.11411022[source]▶
Because they changed their position and direction. This was a necessary, rational and defendable choice and not some hollow marketing gag.

The company would be worse off if they do not stick to this direction and start backstabbing. It is bad enough that companies are legal persons, let's not anthropomorphize them even more into irrational evil villains that hold grudges.