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1. pvdebbe ◴[] No.11388636[source]
This has a faint scent of an early April fool joke.
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2. tempodox ◴[] No.11388969[source]
It does, but then find me a Linux user who doesn't dual-boot into Windoze for desktop apps. This way, you save one reboot. I wonder, however, how stable this will be...
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3. bsharitt ◴[] No.11388992[source]
I can't think I a single thing I'd need to boot into Windows for anymore.
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4. jonathonf ◴[] No.11389097[source]
As a Linux user you'd want to run Windows as your main OS?

I'd rather use a VM (or WINE).

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5. jarcane ◴[] No.11389098{3}[source]
Games.
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6. ausjke ◴[] No.11389099{3}[source]
for me it's turbotax that does not have a linux version
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7. travjones ◴[] No.11389145{3}[source]
I agree. I use a VM for Windows as well. It's probably safer to keep Windows sandboxed away in a VM. I know this doesn't work well for everyone, but any app I use in Windows is not that resource-intensive. I haven't tried WINE recently, but due to headaches years ago, I tend to avoid it and just fire up the VM.
8. nightski ◴[] No.11389162{3}[source]
I would. Professionally I command a high rate consulting within the Microsoft ecosystem. All of my professional work is on Windows. However I'd love to run some Linux libraries on Windows. For example, tensorflow would be very useful. Sure I can fire up a VM, but then I lose GPU support which is a big deal.
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9. reacweb ◴[] No.11389189[source]
At home, I am using ubuntu since 2009. The first year, I have dual-booted a lot. Progressively, I have stopped. The last time I have booted in Windows was december 2014 to check if it was still working. If a desktop app does not work with wine, I do not use it.

If you can have all the comfort of Linux (huge catalog of software that are easy to uninstall, network transparency, ...) with the assurance that your hardware will be fully supported by the OS, it would deserve a try.

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10. typon ◴[] No.11389228{3}[source]
Visual Studio is better than any IDE in existence. With ViEmu it becomes even better.
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11. jonathonf ◴[] No.11389266{4}[source]
That use-case is not what I think of when someone says "Linux user" - to me, that's a Windows user who wants to run some Linux software.
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12. chao- ◴[] No.11389282[source]
I am similar to reacweb. I dual-booted from 2008 through about 2011, then switched to using Linux as my only bootable OS and Windows in a VM occasionally.

I've noticed since about 2013 that I booted into the VM less and less often. The most recent was after maybe 9 months without using Windows? I wanted to check how something related to batch files worked, purely for curiosity (i.e., unrelated to professional work). There being so many updates queued up that I almost said "screw it" to the whole thing, reasoning that I could ask a friend to check easier/faster than the wait was worth.

13. tombert ◴[] No.11389313[source]
I've been running Linux full-time for since 2013, but then again, I don't play games, so everything that I use actually is on Linux.
14. tombert ◴[] No.11389332{4}[source]
Unless you don't have 30 spare gigs of storage space...
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15. pritambaral ◴[] No.11389508[source]
Me.

Wine, and for the troublesome apps: VM.

16. typon ◴[] No.11389575{5}[source]
If by 30 you mean 20 gigs then, yes. Also, 20 gigs on a very decent 256GB SSD costs around $6.40. I don't know how much your hourly wage is, but the time Visual Studio saves me compared to other development platforms makes up for that money pretty quickly.
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17. reitanqild ◴[] No.11389581[source]
Me, for everything but "work work"[0] for long stretches of time, including moonshine consulting, photos and causual gaming (Counter strike):

accounting? web based

service reports for moonshine work? Office 365 online or Open-/Libre-office

gaming? Steam has worked nicely on my not too beefy desktop for years (I only play CS:GO though)

Today I'm back on Windows 10, mostly, since Windows 10 is less annoying and my current employer don't care if I have a personal account on my new nice laptop.

[0]: Work for NotSoBigCo between 8-16

18. tombert ◴[] No.11389675{6}[source]
I was just being cheeky, honestly, but that price doesn't scale linearly, at least not on a laptop. A 512gb SSD might have a higher cost-per-GB than a 256GB SSD.

I don't run Windows and consequently haven't used VS in any kind of intimate detail, I'm sure it's great if you like dealing with IDEs. I feel more productive with Vim, tmux, GHCI, and GraspJS for doing of my web development.

19. mcroft ◴[] No.11389905{4}[source]
Fortunately for me, the only game I really care about (Civ5) is available on Linux thanks to SteamOS. It certainly seems as though I am in the tiniest of minorities, though.
20. rplnt ◴[] No.11389921{6}[source]
> If by 30 you mean 20 gigs then, yes.

I'm pretty sure VS doesn't require nowhere near that amount and you are talking about Windows symbols.

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21. pvdebbe ◴[] No.11389928{3}[source]
I had similar progression when I switched to Gentoo in 2007. I would boot into windows maybe every 3 months, and it was always a hassle with the security updates. Wiped out the partition after a couple of years of checking into windows maybe once every 6 months.
22. tombert ◴[] No.11390086{7}[source]
That might be true; I had a slightly tainted image of VS when I had to use it three years ago, and after everything I needed was installed, I only had like a gig left (this was on a weak, underpowered netbook, admittedly).

In retrospect it's not entirely VS's fault, though I just found it amusing how quickly it ate through my storage when Vim only takes like 90 megs.

23. wyldfire ◴[] No.11390662{4}[source]
For the past 5-6 years I've used https://taxact.com/ and haven't needed Windows.
24. wyldfire ◴[] No.11390681[source]
My house has a pantload of computers, none of which have Windows installed -- it's actually been this way for years. I have an ubuntu laptop, my wife uses OS X. My kids mostly use iOS/android devices and occasionally another ubuntu laptop or chromebook.
25. yarrel ◴[] No.11390925[source]
Hi.
26. zeveb ◴[] No.11390993[source]
> find me a Linux user who doesn't dual-boot into Windoze for desktop apps

I've been using Linux on the desktop for 19 years, and I've never once dual-booted into Windows on any of my personal machines.

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