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Paris Shootings and Explosions Kill Over 100, Police Say

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623 points franzb | 3 comments | 14 Nov 15 00:25 UTC | HN request time: 0.051s | source
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djfm ◴[14 Nov 15 01:12 UTC] No.10563795[source]▶
I live in Paris and was spending the night in the middle of the hot zone. I was a few hundred meters from the Bataclan but fortunately the area I was in was spared. I tried to get a Uber but they were unavailable, "State of emergency, please stay home", the app said. I took a city bike home, rode about 10kms and barely saw anyone in the streets all the way home. It was really, really weird. I'm awfully sad that people can be proud of having killed a hundred innocents. I'm not afraid, I'm just terribly sad. Please stop this pointless killing.
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Fluid_Mechanics ◴[14 Nov 15 01:25 UTC] No.10563860[source]▶
If we didn't need to secure their oil by supporting/deposing despots in the region, and didn't want to provide the Israelis with military/political/financial support then we would not be dealing with any of this carnage.

Their attempts to fight back will only escalate the situation, and the carnage will continue.

Edit: I'm not advocating that we not support Israel. I'm simply stating a hard truth regarding "why they hate us".

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13thLetter ◴[14 Nov 15 01:26 UTC] No.10563865[source]▶
Maaaaaaaybe wait until the bodies have cooled before you start searching for a way to blame the Jews? :(
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1. littletimmy ◴[14 Nov 15 01:35 UTC] No.10563904[source]▶
Israel = nation state. Jews = ethno-religious group.

Completely different.

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2. acjohnson55 ◴[14 Nov 15 05:08 UTC] No.10564552[source]▶
Distinct concepts? Sure. But completely different is an exaggeration.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_and_Democratic_State

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3. littletimmy ◴[14 Nov 15 06:23 UTC] No.10564725[source]▶
Look, I'm sure Israel wants to be a jewish state, just like Pakistan wants to be an Islamic state and some people want the US to be a Christian state. That doesn't mean much except politics. The fact of the matter is that nation states are very different beasts from ethno-religious groups.