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dclowd9901 ◴[] No.7329039[source]
While I don't disagree that the NSA's directive is international information gathering, and that should be the limit of its scope, I think Colbert's wrong to think that's something that can exist without ever going far beyond its scope. By natural consequence of having an extremely well funded organization with zero oversight, if we don't have whistleblowers, they're going to take advantage of the situation.

Which brings me to the counterpoint which is that Snowden shouldn't spend the rest of his life in jail, which is what would invariably happen would be go to trial in the US. I think it's of little matter that he revealed how we spy on other countries. I think the point of that was to show that that's how we're being spied on by the 5 Eyes, who will freely share their spying information.

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icantthinkofone ◴[] No.7329060[source]
>an extremely well funded organization with zero oversight

This is a false statement since the NSA does have oversight.

>Snowden shouldn't spend the rest of his life in jail, which is what would invariably happen would be go to trial in the US.

This, too, is a false statement and conjecture.

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1. nailer ◴[] No.7329180[source]
Snowden states he was able to look up information on any citizen, including the President, without any explicit approval or subsequent investigation. What evidence do you have to refute that?
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2. jessedhillon ◴[] No.7329449[source]
That's not the way logic works. Affirmative assertions need to be demonstrated by the person making the claim. It's not encumbent on anyone to disprove Snowden's claims; it's his responsibility to show that they are true.
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3. nailer ◴[] No.7329689[source]
The weird thing is the NSA has never refuted the very specific allegation of Booz's access and the lack of supervision (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jun/09/edward-snowden-...), merely just repeated that 'oversight exists'. Since we're all discussing a massive series of leaked documents, how do you logically think otherwise?

Let's see what the Office of the Inspector General (OIG) has to say:

http://www.theverge.com/2013/8/23/4651448/nsa-report-reveals...