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Are we stuck with the same Desktop UX forever? [video]

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179 points joelkesler | 1 comments | 13 Dec 25 18:39 UTC | HN request time: 0.462s | source
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ares623 ◴[13 Dec 25 20:34 UTC] No.46257756[source]▶
Are we stuck with the same toothbrush UX forever?
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ErroneousBosh ◴[13 Dec 25 22:32 UTC] No.46258847[source]▶
I was going to say "are we stuck with the same bicycle UX forever".

Because we've been stuck with the same bicycle UX for like 150 years now.

Sometimes shit just works right, just about straight out of the gate.

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DangitBobby ◴[14 Dec 25 01:24 UTC] No.46259992[source]▶
There have been absolute fucking gobs of UX changes to bikes in just the last 5 years. They just usually end up on mid range or higher end bikes. Obviously they don't fundamentally change the way a bike works, otherwise it wouldn't be a bike anymore.
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ErroneousBosh ◴[14 Dec 25 10:41 UTC] No.46262149[source]▶
Like what? What would you call a "UX change"?
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1. DangitBobby ◴[16 Dec 25 13:37 UTC] No.46288326[source]▶
I would call a "UX change" on a bike anything that significantly impacts your experience on the bike: comfort, speed, control, maneuverability, and even safety (as long as you know it makes you safer). And for those of us who maintain their bikes, durability and repairability.

In the last 20 years alone we've seen introduced or popularized:

Carbon frames, carbon wheels, disk/hydraulic brakes, expanded cassettes (2x11, 2x12), electric shifters, aerodynamic wheels, string spokes, and a boat load of different tires (for different levels of comfort, speed, durability, grip) for whatever you are doing. That's road bikes.

For mountain bikes you have all of that (minus aerodynamic stuff), dropper posts, 1x drive trains (1 chainring, 12 gears on the cassette, these are so good people want them on road/gravel bikes too) plus a slow evolution of geometry that completely changes how the bike feels on different terrain (also making them safer on dangerous terrain), plus a slow march from incredibly heavy builds to today's lightweight builds which are still more than capable of handling downhill. And in that same time-frame you'll see them going from 26" to 29" wheels, which results in a massive difference in the way the bike rides, and also the bike's ability to go over obstacles. And tubeless tires are now popularized on MTB, which means you can run lower pressures for better comfort and traction, and you also spend a lot less time futzing with holes in tubes.

Not to mention... E-bikes. There's just been so much going on. A lot of that might sound like it does a bunch of nothing, but all of it contributes heavily to how the bike feels and performs overall. Carbon frames and wheels for example aren't just about weight savings, they make the bike more rigid (which changes how it responds to inputs) and reduce vibration making the bike more comfortable overall. If you were somehow blindfolded and put on a bike from 20 years ago versus one from today you'd be able to tell. Doubly so for 40 years ago.