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Samsung may end SATA SSD production soon

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108 points Krontab | 9 comments | 15 Dec 25 14:51 UTC | HN request time: 0.796s | source | bottom
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tart-lemonade ◴[15 Dec 25 16:25 UTC] No.46276589[source]▶
I can't say I'm surprised, but I am disappointed. The SATA SSD market has basically turned into a dumping ground for low quality flash and controllers, with the 870s being the only consistently good drives still in production after Crucial discontinued the MX500.

It's the end of an era.

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crote ◴[15 Dec 25 16:57 UTC] No.46277031[source]▶
The thing is, what's the market for them?

If you care even remotely about speed, you'll get an NVMe drive. If you're a data hoarder who wants to connect 50 drives, you'll go for spinning rust. Enterprise will go for U.3.

So what's left? An upgrade for grandma's 15-year-old desktop? A borderline-scammy pre-built machine where the listed spec is "1TB SSD" and they used the absolute cheapest drive they can find? Maybe a boot drive for some VM host?

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1. nemomarx ◴[15 Dec 25 17:00 UTC] No.46277074[source]▶
Where do you add more storage after you've used your 1-2 nvme slots and the m.2?

I would think an SSD is going to be better than a spinning disc even with the limits of sata if you want to archive things or work with larger data or whatever

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2. esseph ◴[15 Dec 25 17:09 UTC] No.46277206[source]▶
PCIE expansion card with m2 slots?

(SSDs are "fine", just playing devil's advocate.)

3. paulbgd ◴[15 Dec 25 17:09 UTC] No.46277212[source]▶
pcie expansion cards? SATA isn’t free and takes away from having potentially more PCIE lanes, so the only real difference here is the connector
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5. crote ◴[15 Dec 25 17:20 UTC] No.46277365[source]▶
Counterpoint: who needs that much fast storage?

4 M.2 NVMe drives is quite doable, and you can put 8TB drives in each. There are very few people who need more than 32TB of fast data access, who aren't going to invest in enterprise hardware instead.

Pre-hype, for bulk storage SSDs are around $70/TB, whereas spinning drives are around $17/TB. Are you really willing to pay that much more for slightly higher speeds on that once-per-month access to archived data?

In reality you're probably going to end up with a 4TB NVMe drive or two for working data, and a bunch of 20TB+ spinning drives for your data archive.

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6. jillesvangurp ◴[15 Dec 25 17:45 UTC] No.46277775[source]▶
You can actually get a decent 4TB USB-C drive from Samsung. For most home users those are fast and big enough. If you get a mac, the SSD is soldered on the main board typically. And you can get up to 8TB now. That's a trend that some other laptop builders are probably following. There's no need for separate SATA drives anymore except for a shrinking group of enthusiast home builders.

I have a couple of 2TB USB-C SSDs. I haven't bought a separate SATA drive in well over a decade. My last home built PC broke around 2013.

7. bryanlarsen ◴[15 Dec 25 17:45 UTC] No.46277777[source]▶
Only SATA made it common for motherboards or adapters to support more than 2-4 hard drives. We're back to what we used to do before SATA: when you're out of space you replace the smallest drive with something larger.
8. 0134340 ◴[15 Dec 25 20:15 UTC] No.46279935[source]▶
There are SATA SSD enclosures for M.2 drives. Those are cheap enough now that granny can still upgrade her old PC on the cheap.
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9. wtallis ◴[15 Dec 25 21:00 UTC] No.46280570[source]▶
Link? An adapter allowing a M.2 SATA SSD to be used in a 2.5" SATA enclosure is cheap and dead simple: just needs a 5V to 3.3V regulator. But that doesn't help. Connecting a M.2 NVMe SSD to a SATA host port would be much more exotic, and I don't recall ever hearing about someone producing the silicon necessary to make that work.