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Also: We built a resource hub to fight back against age verification https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2025/12/age-verification-comin...
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zmmmmm ◴[] No.46237414[source]
I feel like the EFF has stretched a bit far on this one. They need to be advocating for good solutions, not portraying age verification as fundamentally about surveillance and censorship.

As many are pointing out zero knowledge proofs exist and resolve most of the issues they are referring to. And it doesn't have to be complex. A government (or bank, or anybody that has an actual reason to know your identity) provided service that mints a verifiable one time code the user can plug into a web site is very simple and probably sufficient. Pretty standard PKI can do it.

The real battle to be lost here is that uploading actual identity to random web sites becomes normalised. Or worse, governments have to know what web sites you are going to. That's what needs to be fought against.

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stvltvs ◴[] No.46238218[source]
What good solutions are there that prevent the age verification service and the website from comparing notes (because Big Brother told them to) and figuring out who you are and what you're doing?
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Seattle3503 ◴[] No.46238521[source]
This is only hypothetical for government ID's, but in theory government IDs could provide pairwise pseudonymous identifiers with services. Your ID with a single service is stable, but it is different with each service.
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pseudalopex ◴[] No.46239197[source]
They imagined a scenario where the state ordered 2 companies to identify users. How would replacing 1 company with the state improve this?
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1. Seattle3503 ◴[] No.46241214[source]
What would the state force you to do in this case?
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2. stvltvs ◴[] No.46241873[source]
Is your question about what authoritarian states do with information about everyone's private lives?