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uberman ◴[] No.46237673[source]
Why do people what self driving cars at all? I certainly hate the thought of having to pay for any of this. Even if the end product is subscription based, all these feature cost money up front making new cars super expensive.
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mike-cardwell ◴[] No.46238271[source]
I'd love to get in my car and go to sleep for a couple of hours or read a book whilst it drives me somewhere. Imagine if it could even pull over and charge up without any kind of intervention too. You could get in your car, and get a full nights sleep whilst it drive you somewhere 500 miles away.

Also, at some point, I'm probably going to be too old to drive safely, which will restrict my travels. Not if self driving gets to the point where that doesn't matter anymore.

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llbeansandrice ◴[] No.46238658[source]
This is a train.

You want a train.

If you don't like sharing space with other people, you want a private room on a train.

These cars and their supporting infrastructure should cost more than a private room on a train because they are less efficient and have more negative externalities than a private room on a train.

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jjcm ◴[] No.46238713{3}[source]
A train can't take me to the beach. It can't take me camping away from civilization. It can't haul lumber from a hardware store so I can build a treehouse.

I love trains, but let's not pretend there is a perfect Venn diagram of overlap between what their use cases are.

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lapetitejort ◴[] No.46238816{4}[source]
Trains can take you to the beach and away from civilization. Build a station where you want to go. At one point trains were the most practical way to get to national parks.

How often are you building treehouses that you need to pay hundreds of dollars extra a month to justify the cost, versus a one-time delivery fee?

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dzhiurgis ◴[] No.46239086{3}[source]
If you build train station away from civilization pretty quickly it will be filled with civilization.

Trains are ok for mass transit. Rest of world is for cars.

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1. ryan_lane ◴[] No.46239684{4}[source]
You must be an American, because plenty of trains exist to bring people to nature elsewhere. You know, when you drive a car to a nature place, you put it into a parking lot, then you are no longer in the car, right? Same works for trains.
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2. dzhiurgis ◴[] No.46240362[source]
Low density places exist outside america. You should check them out.
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3. ryan_lane ◴[] No.46241884[source]
I have. A lot of them have trains!