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Rivian Unveils Custom Silicon, R2 Lidar Roadmap, and Universal Hands Free

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328 points doctoboggan | 5 comments | 11 Dec 25 18:17 UTC | HN request time: 0.683s | source
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iambateman ◴[12 Dec 25 00:55 UTC] No.46239609[source]▶
it seems like car-makers themselves feel burdened to make their own self-driving tech, as opposed to outsourcing the software to a third party.

Dell and HP don’t make operating systems…it seems like having a handful of companies focused on getting the self-driving part right without the need to also specialize in manufacturing would be beneficial.

My first inclination was to be bullish on Rivian, and there’s no question that their vehicles are beautiful. But is there anything to suggest they have an advantage over Tesla or other automakers when it comes to self-driving?

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1. dymk ◴[12 Dec 25 01:00 UTC] No.46239644[source]▶
They could have a better driving assistance package than 99% of other cars on the road for 1/10 the price by using OpenPilot as the LKAS, or installing a Comma in the car.

Real shame nobody has taken that approach, not even a fork

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2. AlotOfReading ◴[12 Dec 25 01:25 UTC] No.46239805[source]▶
Comma had made essentially no efforts to meet the requirements of automotive systems the last time I looked at them. They would be an incredibly risky supplier for systems that could easily come under regulatory scrutiny.
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3. rootusrootus ◴[12 Dec 25 02:04 UTC] No.46240055[source]▶
I recently ordered a Comma Four, which I will install BluePilot on and use with my Lightning. I'm looking forward to seeing how competent it is. Gets good reviews, at least, so I'm hoping.

I do wonder if there will be many more iterations, though, with so many manufacturers switching over to an encrypted canbus and locking out the control method comma uses.

4. plun9 ◴[12 Dec 25 03:52 UTC] No.46240711[source]▶
Aptera has: https://aptera.us/openpilot-release
5. RealityVoid ◴[12 Dec 25 07:49 UTC] No.46241836[source]▶
That's not completely true.

https://github.com/commaai/openpilot/blob/master/docs/SAFETY...

It's an... interesting approach, They essentially reduce the surface area as much as possible. I don't buy that it's enough, but, again, interesting to see what they do.

Besides, a big OEM could pour an army of developers and turn the Comma approach into an ASIL D, it would be quite a lot of work but within the realm of possibility.