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pedrozieg ◴[] No.46233265[source]
There’s something refreshing about explicitly saying “this editor exists to delight me, and that’s enough”. The default script now is that every side project should either be open-sourced or turned into a SaaS, even if that pressure is exactly what kills the weirdness that made it interesting in the first place.

Some of the best tools I’ve used felt like they started as someone’s private playground that only later got hardened into “serious” software. Letting yourself park Boo, go build a language, and come back when it’s fun again is probably how we get more Rio/Boo-style experiments instead of yet another VS Code skin with a growth deck attached.

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mghackerlady ◴[] No.46234633[source]
I'm very much for people open-sourcing their projects in terms of releasing the source code. Just don't accept patches or whatever, keep the repos closed
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mirashii ◴[] No.46234840[source]
Unfortunately, and I think to great overall harm, GitHub does not let you disable many of the collaboration features. I was just having a discussion today with someone who would be fine open sourcing their code, but is uninterested in any contributions, questions, or community interaction. Since GitHub won’t allow that, their options are to host it somewhere themselves where nobody will see it, or just don’t publish it, which is ultimately what happened.
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hnlmorg ◴[] No.46235989[source]
Odds are, you’re not going to get any contributions even if you do want them. So they could just upload regardless.

And if the README explicitly says the project isn’t open to contributors nor feature requests, then you’re even less likely to see that (and have a very valid reason to politely close any issues on the unlikely scenario that someone might create one).

The vast majority of stuff on GitHub goes unnoticed by the vast majority of people. And only a very small minority of people ever interact with the few projects they do pull from GH.

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1. mirashii ◴[] No.46238311[source]
> Odds are, you’re not going to get any contributions even if you do want them. So they could just upload regardless.

This is not my personal experience nor the experience of a number of folks that I know personally. I think it's pretty hard to generalize about this.

> The vast majority of stuff on GitHub goes unnoticed by the vast majority of people. And only a very small minority of people ever interact with the few projects they do pull from GH.

So what? It's probably not going to impact you, so it's okay and we just have to deal with it? I reject that logic entirely.

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2. hnlmorg ◴[] No.46241799[source]
> This is not my personal experience nor the experience of a number of folks that I know personally. I think it's pretty hard to generalize about this.

I think it’s pretty easy to generalise because public repositories are public, so the data is available.

The vast majority of repositories on GH has between 0 and 10 stars and no issues raised by other people.

Even people (like myself) who have repos with thousands of stars and other GH members “following” them, will have other repos with in GH with zero interaction.

> So what? It's probably not going to impact you, so it's okay and we just have to deal with it? I reject that logic entirely.

That’s a really uncharitable interpretation of my comment.

A more charitable way of reading it would be:

“Worrying about a minor problem that is easily remediated and likely wouldn’t happen anyway isn’t a strong reason to miss out.”

If we were talking about something high stakes, where one’s career, family or life would be affected; then I’d understand. But the worst outcome here is an assumption gets proven true and they delete the repo.

Please don’t take this as a persuasive argument that someone should do something they don’t want to do. If people don’t want to share their code then that’s their choice.

Instead this is responding to the comment that your friend DID want to share but was scared of a theoretical but low risk and unlikely scenario. That nervousness isn’t irrational, but it’s also not a good reason by itself to miss out on doing something you said they did want to do.

If however, that was really just an excuse and they actually had no real desire to share their code, then they should just be honest and say that. There’s no obligation that people need to open source their pet projects so they don’t need to justify it with arguments about GHs lack controls. They can just said “I don’t want my code public” and that’s a good enough reason itself.