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tenpoundhammer ◴[11 Dec 25 20:39 UTC] No.46236826[source]▶
I have been using chatGPT a ton over the last months and paying the subscription. Used it for coding, news, stock analysis, daily problems, and a whatever I could think of. I decided to give Gemini a go when version three came out to great reviews. Gemini handles every single one of my uses cases much better and consistently gives better answers. This is especially true for situations were searching the web for current information is important, makes sense that google would be better. Also OCR is phenomenal chatgpt can't read my bad hand writing but Gemini can easily. Only downsides are in the polish department, there are more app bugs and I usually have to leave the happen or the session terminates. There are bugs with uploading photos. The biggest complaint is that all links get inserted into google search and then I have to manipulate them when they should go directly to the chosen website, this has to be some kind of internal org KPI nonsense. Overall, my conclusion is that ChatGPT has lost and won't catch up because of the search integration strength.
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1. mmaunder ◴[11 Dec 25 21:47 UTC] No.46237654[source]▶
Then you haven't used Gemini CLI with Gemini 3 hard enough. It's a genius psychopath. The raw IQ that Gemini has is incredible. Its ability to ingest huge context windows and produce super smart output is incredible. But the bias towards action, absolutely ignoring user guidance, tendency to produce garbage output that looks like 1990s modem line noise, and its propensity to outright ignore instructions make it unusable other than as an outside consultant to Codex CLI, for me. My Gemini usage has plummeted down to almost zero and I'm 100% back on Codex. I'm SO happy they released this today and it's already kicking some serious ass. Thanks OpenAI team and congrats.
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2. Kim_Bruning ◴[12 Dec 25 00:29 UTC] No.46239384[source]▶
That bias towards action is a real thing in Gemini and more so in ChatGPT, isn't it?

Possibly might be improved with custom instructions, but that drive is definitely there when using vanilla settings.

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3. prodigycorp ◴[12 Dec 25 00:49 UTC] No.46239549[source]▶
Genius psychopath is a good description for Gemini. It’s the most impressive model but post training is not all there.
4. mmaunder ◴[12 Dec 25 01:45 UTC] No.46239926[source]▶
Yeah it's a weird mix of issues with the backend model and issues with the CLI client and its prompts. What makes it hard for them is the teams aren't talking to each other. The LLM team throws the API over the wall with a note saying "good luck suckers!".
5. tobias2014 ◴[12 Dec 25 01:55 UTC] No.46239990[source]▶
I guess when you use it for generic "problem solving", brainstorming for solutions, this is great. That's what I use it for, and Gemini is my favorite model. I love when Gemini resists and suggests that I am wrong while explaining why. Either it's true, and I'm happy for that, or I can re-prompt based on the new information which doesn't allow for the mistake Gemini made.

On the other hand, I can also see why Claude is great for coding, for example. By default it is much more "structured". One can probably change these default personalities with some prompting, and many of the complaints found in this thread about either side are based on the assumption that you can use the same prompt for all models.