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EFF launches Age Verification Hub

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347 points iamnothere | 2 comments | 10 Dec 25 20:35 UTC | HN request time: 0.475s | source

Also: We built a resource hub to fight back against age verification https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2025/12/age-verification-comin...
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zmmmmm ◴[11 Dec 25 21:29 UTC] No.46237414[source]▶
I feel like the EFF has stretched a bit far on this one. They need to be advocating for good solutions, not portraying age verification as fundamentally about surveillance and censorship.

As many are pointing out zero knowledge proofs exist and resolve most of the issues they are referring to. And it doesn't have to be complex. A government (or bank, or anybody that has an actual reason to know your identity) provided service that mints a verifiable one time code the user can plug into a web site is very simple and probably sufficient. Pretty standard PKI can do it.

The real battle to be lost here is that uploading actual identity to random web sites becomes normalised. Or worse, governments have to know what web sites you are going to. That's what needs to be fought against.

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1. atonse ◴[11 Dec 25 21:35 UTC] No.46237493[source]▶
Yep this is the first time I've disagreed with the EFF on anything civil liberties related.

My view is that there's no reason why we can't come together and come up with a rating system for websites (through HTTP headers, there are already a couple proposals, the RTA header and another W3C proposal).

Once a website just sends a header saying this is adult only content, what YOU as a user do with it is up to you. You could restrict it at the OS level (which is another thing we ALREADY have).

This would match the current system, which allows households to set their devices to block whatever they want, and the devices get metadata from the content producers.

No ID checks needed.

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2. kmoser ◴[12 Dec 25 07:13 UTC] No.46241642[source]▶
> My view is that there's no reason why we can't come together and come up with a rating system for websites

There's no way everybody will agree what constitutes "adult only content," therefore there's no way to come up with a rating for websites.