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Rivian Unveils Custom Silicon, R2 Lidar Roadmap, and Universal Hands Free

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328 points doctoboggan | 12 comments | 11 Dec 25 18:17 UTC | HN request time: 0.832s | source | bottom
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frankfrank13 ◴[11 Dec 25 18:53 UTC] No.46235441[source]▶
Is there some tight coupling on autonomy + electric cars? Seems the only 2 viable hands-free car companies are Tesla and Rivian. I don't see myself ever getting an electric car, but it doesn't seem like the big car companies are anywhere near this.
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1. hartator ◴[11 Dec 25 18:54 UTC] No.46235463[source]▶
I think the shift to EV is inevitable.
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2. colordrops ◴[11 Dec 25 18:56 UTC] No.46235497[source]▶
I agree, but it won't happen until EVs get more range.
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3. amanaplanacanal ◴[11 Dec 25 18:59 UTC] No.46235546[source]▶
Better charging infrastructure and faster charging batteries will mitigate some of that.
4. 5upplied_demand ◴[11 Dec 25 19:53 UTC] No.46236273[source]▶
That has been happening consistently for almost 15 years. https://www.energy.gov/eere/vehicles/articles/fotw-1323-janu...
5. ok_dad ◴[11 Dec 25 20:02 UTC] No.46236387[source]▶
The range is fine today, the problem is charging infrastructure now. There aren't enough high speed chargers, and we can't build more because of the same reasons we can't build more AI datacenters: power. Tesla can build tons of them because they're backed by large grid batteries that suck up the power peaks from fast charging so that they can install their charging stations anywhere that has somewhat reliable power. If you don't have the batteries to act as a peak shaver, then it's really hard to install high speed charging where people need it most in residential and commercial areas that are already oversubscribed.
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6. iknowstuff ◴[11 Dec 25 20:40 UTC] No.46236832[source]▶
It already happened. 1/3rd of the global car market is EV. Range is not an issue.
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7. colordrops ◴[11 Dec 25 22:46 UTC] No.46238396{3}[source]▶
Worthless comment. Of course it's not an issue for city driving. It's an issue for long trips and rural driving. No one said EVs don't serve many use cases. I have one myself.
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8. colordrops ◴[11 Dec 25 22:47 UTC] No.46238408{3}[source]▶
It's not fine for all use cases. There are many people who are holding out because it's either not fine for their main use case, or even just a use case that occurs infrequently, but still important to them.
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9. iknowstuff ◴[11 Dec 25 23:55 UTC] No.46239072{4}[source]▶
Worthless human. More range is not needed and mark my words, mainstream EVs will not bother going beyond ~300 miles. Even the 400mi in a model s is a lot. More charging stations maybe, though we have plenty here in CA so roadtrips in a Tesla have never been a problem.
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10. colordrops ◴[12 Dec 25 01:22 UTC] No.46239773{5}[source]▶
appreciate the compliment. I'm one of those Californians with a Tesla, and we keep a gas car for certain trips that would be very difficult with a Tesla. I'm not just making something up here. But whatever you say.
11. ok_dad ◴[12 Dec 25 01:52 UTC] No.46239978{4}[source]▶
I'd like to see data on the distances people drive on a regular basis. For America where I am from, I think that a vast majority of people could use EVs today with the ranges they have today. I didn't see any EVs with ranges below 200+ miles and most had 260+. If you have to go further than that on a regular basis, I think that most cars won't work for your specific needs, let alone EVs. The whole range argument seems like some FUD to me that was made up by the ICE industry, honestly, because EVs have had these same ranges for a decade now.
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12. colordrops ◴[12 Dec 25 04:19 UTC] No.46240833{5}[source]▶
I'm speaking out of personal experience as an EV owner in Los Angeles that takes occasional road trips. It's those occasional road trips that are preventing me from going full EV. And I'm like 99% certain I'm not a tiny minority.