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    The Walt Disney Company and OpenAI Partner on Sora

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    236 points inesranzo | 16 comments | 11 Dec 25 14:05 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source | bottom
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    giancarlostoro ◴[11 Dec 25 14:40 UTC] No.46231943[source]▶
    This will not end well for Disney, there were certain historical characters removed from Sora 2 because people kept making racist videos that are hard to censor, and it became increasingly unhinged. This feels like another circular investment where Disney is hoping to make money back I'm sure. On the other hand, assuming they do the freemium stuff, I look forward to making a few videos of my daughters favorite Disney princesses "talking" to her.
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    yreg ◴[11 Dec 25 16:18 UTC] No.46233293[source]▶
    I understand that Disney might care about this, but I don't see why they should.

    What exactly does “fanart” (no matter how distasteful and controversial) change?

    Let people generate whatever fictional character they want.

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    1. notyourwork ◴[11 Dec 25 16:21 UTC] No.46233332{3}[source]▶
    It only works until Mickey Mouse shows up on your Tiktok feed lynching an African American and doing a sieg heil salute. Are you sure Disney wants that or would not care about that??
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    2. zahlman ◴[11 Dec 25 16:28 UTC] No.46233456[source]▶
    The question is why it shows up on your Tiktok feed.
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    3. lp0_on_fire ◴[11 Dec 25 16:51 UTC] No.46233777[source]▶
    I thought it was well known and generally accepted that the social medial companies push controversial click/rage bait to keep people “engaged”?
    4. gosub100 ◴[11 Dec 25 17:09 UTC] No.46234039[source]▶
    This is a good point. Instead of policing what trolls will use it for, the same AI should be able to detect racist content and prevent it from spreading
    5. salawat ◴[11 Dec 25 17:12 UTC] No.46234076[source]▶
    Look, I've gotten cartel beheadings and beatings on a YouTube search query for Jack Russell terriers.

    Don't throw shade. If you haven't gotten "How the fuck did that get there?", consider yourself lucky I guess. Best I can figure, terriers have some unintentional shared vector space with much more unpleasant content.

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    6. stOneskull ◴[11 Dec 25 17:24 UTC] No.46234247{3}[source]▶
    terriers/terrorists
    7. matsemann ◴[11 Dec 25 17:25 UTC] No.46234272[source]▶
    This used to be a "zing", but don't think it is anymore. Try to make a new profile somewhere and select a few topics of interest. You will get suggested the most engaging "relevant" content. For me, I made a cycling Instagram and my feed instantly got filled with girls showing of cleavage in lycra with cycling hashtags.
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    8. docjay ◴[11 Dec 25 17:29 UTC] No.46234318[source]▶
    There are clearly plenty of people who feel the same way as you, and for those people what I’m about to ask might have such an obvious answer that it could feel like I’m being rhetorical or feigning ignorance to provoke an emotional response, but it’s truly honest:

    Why should Disney care?

    To which you might say “because people care”, so:

    Why should people care?

    Back when I was a spud I used futuristic text-to-speech synthesis to make my computer say “Eye am Bill Gaytes my farts go FERT FERT FERT” - Should Bill Gates be offended? What about the people who like him? What about the Intel processor I used to create it? Or the company behind the TTS software? Would anyone think they’re involved and endorsed it? I guess the real question is: are we catering the world to people who can’t make that distinction?

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    9. yreg ◴[11 Dec 25 17:37 UTC] No.46234447[source]▶
    So what? Similar videos and pictures have existed since the dawn of web.

    Yes, AI enables people to produce these in higher fidelity, but I don't see how it is any different to Dolan MS Paint comics.

    No one is going to think that Mickey doing lynching is official art, nor will they think that Mickey is a real person who has done that.

    10. cm2012 ◴[11 Dec 25 18:31 UTC] No.46235107[source]▶
    People saying this have not worked with Sora before. I challenge you to generate anything even close to that.
    11. zahlman ◴[11 Dec 25 18:34 UTC] No.46235129{3}[source]▶
    It was not meant as an attack on GP; it was meant as exactly this opportunity to question "the algorithm".
    12. ojr ◴[11 Dec 25 19:01 UTC] No.46235566[source]▶
    Tiktok has AI moderation tools that you are highly underestimating.
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    13. array_key_first ◴[11 Dec 25 19:07 UTC] No.46235685[source]▶
    People care because it's entirely unconscious. Even if you choose not to care, you can't, because you've already seen it.

    The way advertisement works is that it's brain hacking - it's just associations. Over time your brain associates a brand with a product or products, and then simply by having this association in your brain you're more likely to buy the product.

    This also works for negative advertisement.

    Think about it. Suppose you did see mickey mouse saluting Hitler, or maybe you saw mickey mouse stick a jar up his little rat ass.

    When you see mickey mouse, undoubtedly, even if just for a second, your mind will think about what you saw before. You might discount it immediately, but the damage is done. You still feel that emotion, even if only for a split second, and you have been influenced by it.

    14. array_key_first ◴[11 Dec 25 19:10 UTC] No.46235736{3}[source]▶
    I swear to god Instagram is like the patriarchy speedrun.

    If it finds out you're a woman, within mere minutes it's 100% "you're fat" "try this diet" "you've GOT to buy this viral dress on shein!!"

    And if you're a man, it's boobs, ass, objectification, and products to make you feel more like a man.

    The sheer velocity at which Instagram will shovel you into capitalist-patriachy++ is shocking.

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    15. kevin_thibedeau ◴[11 Dec 25 19:15 UTC] No.46235804[source]▶
    The people making these are good at more subtle forms of hate with coded language and indirect references.
    16. 71bw ◴[12 Dec 25 11:06 UTC] No.46242965{4}[source]▶
    ...have you ever thought about the way you're using the app, then? Because I, personally, get nothing else other than dumb memes and posts from people I follow.