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    1. m101 ◴[] No.46232791[source]
    This is a great example of there being no intelligence under the hood.
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    2. SV_BubbleTime ◴[] No.46232856[source]
    Well… it’s more a great example that great output is a good model with the right context at the right time.

    Take away everything else, there’s a product that is really good at small tasks, it doesn’t mean that changing those small tasks together to make a big task should work.

    3. xixixao ◴[] No.46232926[source]
    Would a human perform very differently? A human who must obey orders (like maybe they are paid to follow the prompt). With some "magnitude of work" enforced at each step.

    I'm not sure there's much to learn here, besides it's kinda fun, since no real human was forced to suffer through this exercise on the implementor side.

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    4. wongarsu ◴[] No.46233103[source]
    > A human who must obey orders (like maybe they are paid to follow the prompt). With some "magnitude of work" enforced at each step

    Which describes a lot of outsourced development. And we all know how well that works

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    5. Capricorn2481 ◴[] No.46233134[source]
    > Would a human perform very differently?

    Yes.

    6. ebonnafoux ◴[] No.46233179[source]
    I have seen some codebase doubling the number of LoC after "refactoring" made by humans, so I would say no.
    7. thatwasunusual ◴[] No.46233449[source]
    No (human) developer would _add_ tests. ^/s
    8. nosianu ◴[] No.46233556[source]
    > Would a human perform very differently?

    How useful is the comparison with the worst human results? Which are often due to process rather than the people involved.

    You can improve processes and teach the humans. The junior will become a senior, in time. If the processes and the company are bad, what's the point of using such a context to compare human and AI outputs? The context is too random and unpredictable. Even if you find out AI or some humans are better in such a bad context, what of it? The priority would be to improve the process first for best gains.

    9. Terretta ◴[] No.46233601[source]
    Just as enterprise software is proof positive of no intelligence under the hood.

    I don't mean the code producers, I mean the enterprise itself is not intelligent yet it (the enterprise) is described as developing the software. And it behaves exactly like this, right down to deeply enjoying inflicting bad development/software metrics (aka BD/SM) on itself, inevitably resulting in:

    https://github.com/EnterpriseQualityCoding/FizzBuzzEnterpris...

    10. theshrike79 ◴[] No.46237070{3}[source]
    Using outsourced coders is a skill like any other. There are cultural things you need to consider etc.

    It's not hard, just different.

    11. Yeask ◴[] No.46239027[source]
    A human trained with 0.00000001% of the money OpenAi uses to train models will perform better.

    A human with no traning will perform worse.