←back to thread

197 points OuterVale | 2 comments | | HN request time: 0.64s | source
Show context
anonymars ◴[] No.46227939[source]
I will never understand the bizarre scene of the web's smug collective declaration that tables were dead and not to be used juxtaposed against the years it took to regain the ability to reliably center things. Assuming one agrees that we even did regain it.

Related: I also love when I can't paste tabular data into Excel/etc. anymore

For the record, I don't hate the idea of stylesheets, but...sheesh

replies(11): >>46227986 #>>46228033 #>>46228508 #>>46228913 #>>46228936 #>>46228943 #>>46229276 #>>46229933 #>>46230316 #>>46230586 #>>46232156 #
agumonkey ◴[] No.46228936[source]
sidenote: as a teen, i would regularly layout posters and presentations in excel.. the page preview dashed-border and the grid stability was such a relief compared to word
replies(1): >>46229592 #
6510 ◴[] No.46229592[source]
On commodore 64 the screen is just a fixed size grid of characters. No one ever had issues making an ui. We pretend but flexible viewport size is not actually possible. If you are making a painting for example the size of the canvas greatly influences what can and can be done.

I made a stunning landscape photo one time that looked great only when displayed at roughly the size of a hand. If made larger undesirable details became visible (littering), when smaller important details were lost (a formation of birds over a fishing vessel).

replies(1): >>46229686 #
oneeyedpigeon ◴[] No.46229686[source]
> We pretend but flexible viewport size is not actually possible.

Not beyond a point, but it's still very useful to be flexible up to that. For example, I'm very grateful that a web page will reflow text rather than print everything on one line and force horizontal scrolling.

replies(2): >>46230400 #>>46245114 #
Timwi ◴[] No.46230400[source]
Yet, for some reason, mobile browsers do not reflow when you zoom in, but instead insist on horizontal scrolling, unlike their desktop counterparts. I've never understood that.
replies(1): >>46231229 #
1. hypertele-Xii ◴[] No.46231229[source]
Firefox has a "Desktop site" switch that when disabled changes this behavior.
replies(1): >>46253842 #
2. Timwi ◴[] No.46253842[source]
No, it does not change the zoom behavior.