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zzo38computer ◴[] No.46214792[source]
Calibri font has "I" and "l" the same, according to Wikipedia. A better font should avoid characters being too similar (such as "I" and "l" and "1").

Another issue is due to the font size and font metrics, how much space it will take up on the page, to be small enough to avoid wasting paper and ink but also not too small to read.

So, there are multiple issues in choosing the fonts; however, Times New Roman and Calibri are not the only two possible choices.

Maybe the government should make up their own (hopefully public domain) font, which would be suitable for their purposes (and avoiding needing proprietary fonts), and use that instead.

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jazzyjackson ◴[] No.46225182[source]
> Maybe the government should make up their own

They have, public sans, courtesy of USWDS, and it does distinguish between l and I with a little hook/spur on lowercase el

https://public-sans.digital.gov/

https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Public+Sans?preview.text=1...

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wombatpm ◴[] No.46227683[source]
Is USWDS still a thing? I thought they were DOGED out of existence.
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jazzyjackson ◴[] No.46227731[source]
Good question, with a little searching I found that, in true DOGE fashion, there exists an executive order announcing a new "National Design Studio" which is tasked with updating USWDS

So why fonts are being managed by Rubio and not the Chief Design Officer is anyone's guess

https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/08/fact-sheet-pr...

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sailfast ◴[] No.46227920[source]
Yeah it’s fascist looking as hell, and they’re the ones that have been registering all these rando program domains. So, so dumb - if only because it’s redundant and wasteful.

https://ndstudio.gov/

With such inspiring copy as “What's the biggest brand in the world? If you said Trump, you're not wrong. But what's the foundation of that brand? One that's more globally recognized than practically anything else. It's the nation…where he was born. It's the United States of America.” how can you go wrong?

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Terr_ ◴[] No.46228443[source]
For anyone sharing my confusion: Yes, that cringetastic text (and borderline Hatch-Act violation) is up there, but it's a different linked domain:

https://americabydesign.gov/

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1. zimpenfish ◴[] No.46230000[source]
I'm no expert but "We've been conditioned to accept that mediocre in government is normal." reads terribly.

Surely it should be "...that mediocrity in..." or even "...that mediocre government..." or even "...that being mediocre in...". All of those are better!

edit: this text is a mess. "It's time to upgrade, and fix the nation's digital potholes." That comma is nonsense.

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2. NekkoDroid ◴[] No.46231586[source]
> edit: this text is a mess. "It's time to upgrade, and fix the nation's digital potholes." That comma is nonsense.

I assume they wanted to look smart in the sense "look at us, we used the oxford comma" without actually understanding that the oxford comma needs 3 or more elements listed to be an actual oxford comma.