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Incomplete list of mistakes in the design of CSS

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197 points OuterVale | 1 comments | 11 Dec 25 04:20 UTC | HN request time: 0.192s | source
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anonymars ◴[11 Dec 25 05:18 UTC] No.46227939[source]▶
I will never understand the bizarre scene of the web's smug collective declaration that tables were dead and not to be used juxtaposed against the years it took to regain the ability to reliably center things. Assuming one agrees that we even did regain it.

Related: I also love when I can't paste tabular data into Excel/etc. anymore

For the record, I don't hate the idea of stylesheets, but...sheesh

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ModernMech ◴[11 Dec 25 05:28 UTC] No.46227986[source]▶
My favorite part about that is how we came back around to display:grid
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windows2020 ◴[11 Dec 25 05:39 UTC] No.46228045[source]▶
Until then, display: table kept everyone calm.
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spartanatreyu ◴[11 Dec 25 05:58 UTC] No.46228166[source]▶
No, dealing with tables was like trying to build a house out of tempered glass.

With css grid, I can tell each element which area or column+row to occupy.

If I add or remove a random element, the rest of the elements stay in the correct place.

But do that with a table and you end up trying to glue your house back together shard by shard whilst trying not to cut yourself or breaking things more.

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friendzis ◴[11 Dec 25 06:40 UTC] No.46228363[source]▶
> If I add or remove a random element, the rest of the elements stay in the correct place.

This complaint highlights how absurdly not fit-for-purpose html+css actually is. Okay, you may want to do "responsive" design, but you have the semantic layout fixed, therefore you try and contort a styling engine into pretending to be a layout engine when in reality it is three stylesheets in a trenchoat.

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1. bryanrasmussen ◴[11 Dec 25 10:27 UTC] No.46229697[source]▶
>This complaint highlights how absurdly not fit-for-purpose html+css actually is. Okay, you may want to do "responsive" design, but you have the semantic layout fixed,

this not fit for purpose may in fact be historically superseded usages that still are baked in to some usages affected by the relatively rapid change of the various platforms that must interact and use the respective technologies, the specification version of "technical debt"

that is to say some subsets of the numerous technologies can be used to construct something fit for the purpose that you are describing, but as a general rule anything constructed in a solution will probably be using other subsets not fit for that particular purpose, but maybe fit for some other purpose.