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samuel ◴[] No.46215799[source]
I agree with the sentiment, but I think it's a pretty naive view of the issue. Companies will want all info they can in case some of their workers does something illegal-inappropiate to deflect the blame. That's a much more palpable risk than "local CA certificates being compromised or something like that.

And some of the arguments are just very easily dismissed. You don't want your employer to see you medical records? Why were you browsing them during work hours and using your employers' device in the first place?

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immibis ◴[] No.46215855[source]
In Europe they prefer not to go to jail for privacy violations. It turns out most of these "communist" regulations are actually pretty great.
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johncolanduoni ◴[] No.46215994[source]
Does GDPR (or similar) establish privacy rights to an employee’s use of a company-owned machine against snooping by their employer? Honest question, I hadn’t heard of that angle. Can employers not install EDR on company-owned machines for EU employees?
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apexalpha ◴[] No.46216082[source]
Yes, at least in the Netherlands it is generally accepted that employees can use your device personally, too.

Using a device owned by your company to access your personal GMail account does NOT void your legal right to privacy.

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johncolanduoni ◴[] No.46216551[source]
So does nobody in Europe use an EDR or intercepting proxy since GDPR went into force?
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samuel ◴[] No.46217001[source]
I have found a definite answer from the Dutch Protection Agency (although it could be out of date).

https://english.ncsc.nl/binaries/ncsc-en/documenten/factshee...

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johncolanduoni ◴[] No.46222315[source]
What’s the definitive answer? From what I can tell that document is mostly about security risks and only mentions privacy compliance in a single paragraph (with no specific guidance). It definitely doesn’t say you can or can’t use one.
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1. samuel ◴[] No.46228209[source]
Your question So does nobody in Europe use an EDR or intercepting proxy since GDPR went into force?

Given that a regulator publishes a document with guidelines about DPI I think it rules out the impossibility of implementing it. If that were the case it would simply say "it's not legal". It's true that it doesn't explicitly say all the conditions you should met, but that wasn't your question.